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Pataki calls for special session on guns laws
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Wildalaska
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Problems with the bill?
WildcuriousAlaska
WildcuriousAlaska
BerettaCougar
New member
WA, yes..
A major problem i find is...
Why no death penalty for people who kill other people?
Why only cop killers?
A major problem i find is...
Pataki wants to close what he calls loopholes in state law that weaken crimes against illegal gun trafficking. He also proposed what he calls the Crimes Against Law Enforcement Officers Bill, which increases penalties for criminals who injure or kill police officers. The sentences could include the death penalty.
Why no death penalty for people who kill other people?
Why only cop killers?
Wildalaska
Moderator
NYS already has the death penalty for 1st degree murder of anybody, and I think cop killings are already covered. Probably a newspaper error
WildiircAlaska
WildiircAlaska
azredhawk44
Moderator
The possession of three illegal guns would constitute a felony.
Just about any gun is illegal in NYC it seems. I probably have 3 that would make me a felon... M1a rifle, and 2 hicap autos.
Ok, so he is pushing for 2 things, all the while pointing fingers at the 'Pubs and the NRA.
Finger Pointing: Posturing. Pure and simple.
First thing he is pushing for is increased penalties for violence against LEO's, it doesn't say anything about line of duty. They have had something similar to this back home in Tx, it is nothing new there, not earthshattering. One thing that struck me, though, was this quote
Second thing is the "gun trafficking" thing. Of course, I don't agree with that part. I don't think it should be illegal to possess, move or sell otherwise lawfully obtained products of any sort with or without any sort of licensing or nanny-state overwatch. That includes guns. That does NOT include stolen goods.
The whole thing strikes me as being a knee-jerk reactionary measure, taking advantage of 2 recent crimes in order to slip in a couple of more nanny state-isms while the legislature and electorate are in shock and therefore gullible.
Finger Pointing: Posturing. Pure and simple.
First thing he is pushing for is increased penalties for violence against LEO's, it doesn't say anything about line of duty. They have had something similar to this back home in Tx, it is nothing new there, not earthshattering. One thing that struck me, though, was this quote
It seems to me that he is trying to close the barn door after the horse has already gotten out. Increasing penalties on criminals' actions after the fact does nothing to proactively protect the LEO's before the fact. It isn't protection, it is prosecution. Not wanting to slight LEO's, but why isn't there a similar outrage when non-LEO's are assaulted or murdered? IMHO, assault is assault, and murder is murder, never mind who is being assaulted or murdered. This measure seems to me to be creating a "special" class of people who are more protected by the law than the rank and file citizenry. And about the death penalty thing -- ok, if they will actually carry it out. I'm not holding my breath on that, seems to me to be that much hot air."We're going to do everything we can to protect them," Pataki said at a Manhattan news conference. "We owe that to them."
Second thing is the "gun trafficking" thing. Of course, I don't agree with that part. I don't think it should be illegal to possess, move or sell otherwise lawfully obtained products of any sort with or without any sort of licensing or nanny-state overwatch. That includes guns. That does NOT include stolen goods.
The whole thing strikes me as being a knee-jerk reactionary measure, taking advantage of 2 recent crimes in order to slip in a couple of more nanny state-isms while the legislature and electorate are in shock and therefore gullible.