Pair of 35s

D

Drm50

New member
There has been a lot of interest in rifles in 35 Rem lately. Guys are looking
at the new plastic tipped bullet. I've got a 14, 141, 8 Remington rifle. All of them shot the 200gr RN bullet better than pointed ones. On top of that
I have never had a deer complain that it wasn't dead enough!ImageUploadedByTapatalk1425874711.133446.jpg
 
agreed

Drm50, I am right there with you. The whole "Leverlution " ammo thing seems to me the proverbial answer to the question nobody asked. Whether in your mentioned .35 rems, or the other offerings in .44, .45-70 and I guess .30-30 as well, it seems to me a move simply to sell more ammo, a gimmick.

The .35 is a grand old cartridge, but I feel likely on its way out. It was a family favorite back in the day of Woolrich hunting suits, usually with the 200 grain Silvertip, shot from the Rem "candycane" pumps with iron sights.
 
The Federal roundnose load shoots like a house of fire in a NEF I had & dad's 336.

Bad thing is all you can hardly find is the Hornady LE. He's saving up brass & once there's 100+ laying around I'll load some up but the only bullets we can find are also, the LEs. Fingers crossed I can build a load that shhots as good as the Feds.
 
The whole "Leverlution " ammo thing seems to me the proverbial answer to the question nobody asked. Whether in your mentioned .35 rems, or the other offerings in .44, .45-70 and I guess .30-30 as well, it seems to me a move simply to sell more ammo, a gimmick.
Click to expand...

Actually, Hornady developed the leverevolution ammo to allow a SP type bulled to be used in Tube-Magazine leverguns without the possibility of setting a round off in the tube due to the SP pressing against the primer of the round in front of it in the tube magazine. Mainly for 30-30 initially and then adopted to other cartridges due to it's accuracy and ballistics compared to traditional round-nosed designs.
 
Actually, Hornady developed the leverevolution ammo
to allow a SP type bulled to be used in Tube-Magazine
leverguns without the possibility of setting a round off
in the tube due to the SP pressing against the primer
of the round in front of it in the tube magazine...
Click to expand...

As Bamaranger mentioned, a good portion of these 35 Rems were the "candycane" pumps, designed to prevent bullet to primer alignment.
 
As Bamaranger mentioned, a good portion of these 35 Rems were the "candycane" pumps, designed to prevent bullet to primer alignment.
Click to expand...
And as I said...
Mainly for 30-30 initially and then adopted to other cartridges due to it's accuracy and ballistics compared to traditional round-nosed designs.

You can't argue against the fact that Leverevolution ammo has less drop at distance and less wind drift than traditional round-nose designs...

There are plenty of rifles that shoot accurately with round-nosed bullets, but I bet there are plenty more that shoot more accurately with the newer designed LE polymer tipped bullet.
 
yeah

Yeah, less drop, less wind deflection, higher retained velocity, at long range. I get all the boat tail advantges...and Hornady's marketing pitch.

But the cartridges and rifles typically chambered in, either the old pumps, or the iconic levers, are not beanfield rifles, and the modest gain in all that is eclipsed by their (well, most examples) true practical, useful range.

While I'm at it, though I like the old levers and pumps and their classic chamberings, alot, the advent of the $300 dollar plastic rifle, available in their high velocity cartridges like the '06, .270, even 7mm mag, has pretty much sounded the death knell for the classics.

No longer do I see guys rolling up to the check stations, corner stores, etc, with scoped, affordable Marlin 30-30's, which used to be the "blue collar" deer rifle. And 30-30 spent brass, which used to be common on the ground at the local public range just before deer season, is all but rare too. (Granted, all brass is scavanged these days, but comparitively speaking)

And I'm betting the guys that still do hunt the classics don't want anything to do with "wonder bullets". What they've used for a lifetime works fine.
 
35s
Amen Brother, have kilt deer & bear for 50 yrs with no complaints from
either. Use RN bullets. Use a drop of murine for long shots.
 
I'm certain that some hunters need the extra distance offered by plastic tipped bullets. The gain is something like 75 yards for the mighty 35. But like many guys, the old fashioned 200 grain round nose bullet continues to meet my needs. That is, a cartridge that topples big game animals effectively out to about 150 yards or so.

Jack
 
The whole "Leverlution " ammo thing seems to me the proverbial answer to the question nobody asked.
Click to expand...

I actually think that Hornady was mainly looking at the euro market

many countries have laws akin to Sweden with calibres designated a class

class 1: 6.5x55, 308win, 30-06 and so on
class 2: 30-30, 243, 223,357mag, 44mag etc etc
class 3: 22wmr, 22hornet 9mm, 38s
class4: 22lr and some airguns

what animals you can hunt with what is decided by what class your rifle/ammo is in
class 1: moose, bear, pig, red and fallow-deer
class 2: roe-deer, beaver, lynx, (many people hunt treetop brids with class 2/3

class 3/4: small game/pest

some countries in the EU vary somewhat but roughly the same

that makes the revered winchester 30-30 practically obsolete even if for a dog handler it be a great moose and pig gun, fast to reload, easy to carry and so on

but class is determined not only on muzzle velocity but power left at 100m

some people had hotorded win 30-30 before, only loading one in the tube and using spitzer type bullet but that is not ideal

and it is npt only the new type of bullet, it is also the new powder. so now you can get class 1 ammo for your 30-30 and change your license so it is lawful to hunt moose, pig, bear etc
 
had a 336 in 35 rem one time. got a box of ammo and the day i was to shoot it i got double my money and sold it. used the money for a down payment on a savage 114 in 30-06. wish i would have waited the next pay cycle and just keep the 35.:(:(
 
Hmmmm!

Husquvarna.

Well now that is very interesting and may well be. My window on the world is pretty small and I cannot advise on much past my own observations.

I have read and heard of folks loading vintage 30-30 bolt rifles with spitzer bullets, and recall one account of a fellow building a 30-30-Varminter, using a Speer 110 spire point.

Do tell, does one see many 30-30 rifles in Europe in your experience?
 
they are around,


we have always loved westerns to:D High Chaparall, Bonanza and Macahans are a staple of swedish tv

the problem is that there is little to no ammo for it, same with 45-70, otherwise it would have been more popular, even thou Husqvarna made rifles in the calibres

45-70s are pretty popular for doghandlers when moose/bear/pig hunting
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top