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Not particularly. I'm not very fond of the Sigma series myself.
I would continue to buy old S&W revolvers (used of course) because I believe they are the best quailty pistol you can buy. I shed a tear everytime I see a nicely-kept revolver (with a pinned barrel) and I can not afford it.
If S&W came under new ownership, I'd be hard-pressed (still) to purchase any product. They would have to go a LONG way to prove themselves to me. I can't tell you how hurt I was to hear of it to begin with.
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God, Guns and Guts made this country a great country!
oberkommando sez:
"We lost the first and third and now they are after the Second!(no pun intended)"
I would continue to buy old S&W revolvers (used of course) because I believe they are the best quailty pistol you can buy. I shed a tear everytime I see a nicely-kept revolver (with a pinned barrel) and I can not afford it.
If S&W came under new ownership, I'd be hard-pressed (still) to purchase any product. They would have to go a LONG way to prove themselves to me. I can't tell you how hurt I was to hear of it to begin with.
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God, Guns and Guts made this country a great country!
oberkommando sez:
"We lost the first and third and now they are after the Second!(no pun intended)"
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by FUD:
Despite my love for S&W pistols, I would have serious reservations about buying a Sigma -- agreement or no agreement (even if the agreement never happened). FUD.[/quote]
FUD, what the heck are you doing?
Get back to work!!
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God, Guns and Guts made this country a great country!
oberkommando sez:
"We lost the first and third and now they are after the Second!(no pun intended)"
Despite my love for S&W pistols, I would have serious reservations about buying a Sigma -- agreement or no agreement (even if the agreement never happened). FUD.[/quote]
FUD, what the heck are you doing?
Get back to work!!
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God, Guns and Guts made this country a great country!
oberkommando sez:
"We lost the first and third and now they are after the Second!(no pun intended)"
I've been thinking about this for some time and I believe it's in our best interest to keep supporting S&W.
Sounds odd, I know, but by letting them go under with this boycott, we are removing a very large firearms manufacturer and that is exactly what the anti-gun side wants. Without S&W, how many are left?
Sure, we can all talk about them turning traitor, and I certainly don't agree with their signing the HUD agreement, but doesn't destroying the company aid and abett the enemy? With them gone, isn't the anti case that much stonger? Won't this give them that much more propaganda?
Which is better? Having S&W continue to make and sell guns, or loosing a potential resource for the fight?
I'm at a loss, but I think I would look closely at a new revolver for home defense.
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When Reason Fails.....
Sounds odd, I know, but by letting them go under with this boycott, we are removing a very large firearms manufacturer and that is exactly what the anti-gun side wants. Without S&W, how many are left?
Sure, we can all talk about them turning traitor, and I certainly don't agree with their signing the HUD agreement, but doesn't destroying the company aid and abett the enemy? With them gone, isn't the anti case that much stonger? Won't this give them that much more propaganda?
Which is better? Having S&W continue to make and sell guns, or loosing a potential resource for the fight?
I'm at a loss, but I think I would look closely at a new revolver for home defense.
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When Reason Fails.....
If Lyin' Ed very publicly and angrily denounced the entire fed.gov, then took the contract and used it for TP, then shoved said contract in Andy C's face, then dropped trou and allowed every gun owner (not just people who happen to own guns) to get in one good kick to his nads...
...I might buy an N-frame, just because they're such damn good guns. But I won't until all those conditions are satisfied.
...I might buy an N-frame, just because they're such damn good guns. But I won't until all those conditions are satisfied.
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by VaughnT:
Which is better? Having S&W continue to make and sell guns, or loosing a potential resource for the fight?[/quote]
I don't know about you. But looks like we're gonna make an example of S&W for the rest of the manufacturers. I'd rather loose S&W than have another company sign on with Slick Willie. Let this be a lesson to all gun manufactuers that we ain't gonna have none of this crap!
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God, Guns and Guts made this country a great country!
oberkommando sez:
"We lost the first and third and now they are after the Second!(no pun intended)"
Which is better? Having S&W continue to make and sell guns, or loosing a potential resource for the fight?[/quote]
I don't know about you. But looks like we're gonna make an example of S&W for the rest of the manufacturers. I'd rather loose S&W than have another company sign on with Slick Willie. Let this be a lesson to all gun manufactuers that we ain't gonna have none of this crap!
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God, Guns and Guts made this country a great country!
oberkommando sez:
"We lost the first and third and now they are after the Second!(no pun intended)"
I disagree, Vaughn. If we support Smith & Wesson, then every other gun manufacturer is going to see that knuckling under to the Federales isn't such a bad thing. Then where will the average gun owner be?
Much as I want a S&W 696, we're going to have to use Smith & Wesson as example of what happens when you sell out your customers--to keep Glock, SIG, H&K, Taurus, Walther, and all the others in line.
LawDog
Much as I want a S&W 696, we're going to have to use Smith & Wesson as example of what happens when you sell out your customers--to keep Glock, SIG, H&K, Taurus, Walther, and all the others in line.
LawDog
Thing is, if I won the lotto tomorrow (which will be surprising in itself, since I don't have a ticket...), and bought S&W, and turned it into S,W&B, would _I_ deserve to be boycotted?
I don't think so. If the company does a turnaround, support it. Just like with a dog - If it takes a crap in the living room, discipline it. If it does good, reward it.
I don't think so. If the company does a turnaround, support it. Just like with a dog - If it takes a crap in the living room, discipline it. If it does good, reward it.
Why do some of us feel the need to agonize so much over the fate of S&W?
Sooner or later every company goes out of business. Some do so because of bad leadership decisions. Some because of a bad general economy, overwhelming competition in the marketplace or simply the inability to produce a product that appeals to the consumer.
S&W has a distinguished history, but it's not the first company with one that went belly-up. Nor will it be the last. Colt, Glock, HK , Ruger, etc. will all eventually pass from the scene.
If their departure leaves a void, someone else will eventually come along to fill it.
Nature abhors a vacuum.
I feel sorry for the rank and file workers of S&W. Their lives are being disrupted because of management stupidity.
Otherwise, I don't really give them much thought. Sure, they make a couple of guns I'd like to own, but there are more guns out there that I'd like to have than I'll ever be able to buy.
As far as I'm concerned, S&W is dead & stinkin'!
I'm not holding my breath waiting for their resurrection.
Sooner or later every company goes out of business. Some do so because of bad leadership decisions. Some because of a bad general economy, overwhelming competition in the marketplace or simply the inability to produce a product that appeals to the consumer.
S&W has a distinguished history, but it's not the first company with one that went belly-up. Nor will it be the last. Colt, Glock, HK , Ruger, etc. will all eventually pass from the scene.
If their departure leaves a void, someone else will eventually come along to fill it.
Nature abhors a vacuum.
I feel sorry for the rank and file workers of S&W. Their lives are being disrupted because of management stupidity.
Otherwise, I don't really give them much thought. Sure, they make a couple of guns I'd like to own, but there are more guns out there that I'd like to have than I'll ever be able to buy.
As far as I'm concerned, S&W is dead & stinkin'!
I'm not holding my breath waiting for their resurrection.
