Just a quick update on them. I have a Ruger SBH and it has been tearing the knuckle on my middle finger apart especially with 300 grain thumpers. I looked at Hogue grips for it but they were to bulky for my taste so I went with the Pachmayr's. The fit is decent, although there is a little space between the grips and the trigger guard. As for the knuckle smack, it is completely gone, problem solved. Now I just need to get over the aesthetics issues of replacing the beautiful wood grips with cheap rubber.... Anyway, many suggestions I had to correct the issue were to sell it and get a S&W lol....ok, well if anyone else in in a similiar situation that might not be necessary.