P99 Owners

hube1236

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In the owners manual, it reads that the most detailed cleaning necessary accounts for a field strip and oiling. Further take down of the gun is not recommended. Have any of taken it down to the bare polyframe and the 35 little parts?

Also, I did do the striker cleaning they describe my trigger is sooooo much smoother. I went from flerking everything to nice groupings with the occasional flier at ten and fifteen yards. I am going to start practicing twenty yards soon as I seem to be hitting my target with aplomb at 10 and fifteen.

All of you that say the trigger is weird, it still is, but it is really smooth now.

Any comments?
 
I like mine too, but have to agree with the "weird" trigger statement. I never read about cleaning the striker. I'll have to give that a try, as the trigger is no where near as smooth as I'd like it.

To answer your question, no, I've never stripped it down to the 35 little parts.

Mine's in .40, which caliber is yours?
 
40 also- we are the only owners of 40's in the states- everybody here owns 9's.

There is a section that describes with the slide off, stick a pin just below the striker indicator. There was not much residue after 500 rounds, but the factory lube may be good for corrosion, but it os not a good lube. I dropped some hoppes no 9. Wiped it off and lubed it using the hoppes lube.

Remember it wont be night and day, but I did notice it and my shooting has improved.
 
Thanks,
I'll give it a try.

Are you serious, no one else on these boards own one in .40? Half of my handguns are .40. I really love that caliber. In fact, I only own one 9mm.

Mine was made in Germany, and is all black, though I did want one of those OD Green models. Now if someone would just make a "drop in" .357 Sig barrel for it ....

Oh, one last thing. Don't ever try to use Aquila .40 FMJ ammo with it. The bullet is long and pointed, instead of flat nosed like all other .40s, and will jamb every time.

[This message has been edited by Gusgus (edited July 10, 2000).]
 
Thanks GG,

No, I meant that most of the P99's are in 9mm. I have not yet met one who owns 40 except you. There are about 7 of us, I am surprised that no one else has chimed in.

Anyway, I posted my experience with different ammo's. PMC-180gr is the best for my gun, not one jam. I just sent 200 rounds down range this past weekend all perfect.
 
While I do not own one, I am contemplating getting a P99 in 40S&W.
A few questions, if I may, based on your comments.
Hube & Gus, both of you mention the weirdness of the trigger and that it is not smooth as it comes form the factory. I have not fired one as there is no range in my area that rents these, but in checking them out at the store, I found them to be very crisp breaking and the equal in smoothness to anything else. The SW99 was nowhere near as good. Do you have early models and maybe the later ones were more finely polished? Did yours start out smooth and maybe pickup grit in the lube that needed to be cleaned out?
Gus, you mention yours is made in Germany. Where else are they made? I know Interarms imported then, then Walther USA imported, and now S&W. Did Walther USA actually assemble them here or were they only the importer?
Both of you mention jams or failures to feed. How sensitive to ammo selection is pistol?
Thanks,
Dave
 
Hang on guys, here's another .40 caliber P99 owner checking in! I've had mine for about a year and a half now, with no jams, or misfires, and the accuracy is great. It's one of my favorite carry pieces. My only minor gripe is with the trigger - it's smooth enough, but it does seem gritty. I would love to perform the striker cleaning that was mentioned previously, but I seem to have misplaced my manual that describes the procedure. Can any of you folks describe how to disassemble (and reassemble!) the striker mechanism? Or maybe point me to a website that would show how to do it? Because if I could get rid of the grit and other junk that I'm sure is in my striker assembly, I'd be an even happier Walther owner!
Thanks in advance for any advice!
 
Got the Swalther version in .40SW. Have not taken it down so far though - maybe something to look at.

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Die Wahrheit ist eine Perle. Werfen sie nicht vor die Säue.

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David, I hope you do buy the pistol, I love the damned thing. It has taken me about 400 rnds to get accurate with it, but truth be told this is my first gun (ever) so, I am sure even with a hallowed Sig, I still would have been scattered.

The description of the trigger was sort of biased, me trying to sell the stryker cleaning because it has helped me. The trigger is not cheap, it breaks the same place every time. Owners correct me here, but double taps are quicker than any other gun I fired in my research. When you are dry firing DA, hold the trigger down, and complete the 1/4" slide rack, this will place the gun in SA mode. Slowly release the trigger, it re-engages roughly half the distance of the normal single action pull.

I was in control, but this weekend I was practicing double taps, trying for a triple. I fired three in the same time I can fire two; it was like a full auto but I did pull the trigger each time ;)

I moutain bike a great deal, one of the industry terms is "Sticktion." This describes how the bushing on a shock will take move energy to move than it will to slide. I found this true of the Walther Trigger. When practicing with Snap caps or on the range the slow trigger squeeze in paper shooting, I found that the trigger would take a minute extra press to get it moving if I inadvertantly stopped with the trigger. This problem went away mostly, but I still noticed it. Since I took down the striker assembly about a month ago, it has greatly improved. I am wondering if it was just my gun, my mind, or an actual problem with the shipping "grease" Walther uses.

Free handing, I am starting to group tightly, there was a review in hand gunner a month or two ago and they posted groups of 3.5" - 4.88" at 25 yrds. Their gun, or their ammo had an occasional bench rest flier- one a clip or so. When they excluded that flier, grouping went down to 1.5" to 2.4". They admittedly did not investigate the problem or change ammo types. All I know is that when I sand bagged my hand down, I put three in the 10 spot out of three. It is a combat pistol extrodinaire.

As far as ammo goes, keep in mind that it is a tight tolerant unsupported chamber, reloads are a little bit of a problem (I hear) due to brass bulge, but it is widely stated not to use reloads for defense. Some have said they used reloads without problem- caveat emptor.

When one lets the spring do its job, I have not had a misfeed on my pistol. My friend uses my pistol from time to time and the slide won't close sometimes (all the way). It is only him. My mother (55 yo) shot it with no jams or non-slide closures.

I have slide lock open problems during the first, say 250 rnds, I was using Liberty ammo and CCI-Blazer. I have used UMC (no misfeeds, but friggin dirty gun).

My main practice ammo is PMC- 180. I never had a misfeed. and I like the cool looking gold bullet and shell. Okay I am a foof. ;)

My NRA instructor fired it a couple of times at 15 yrds and bull's eye'd a few times to prove it was me and not the gun.

Pricey but in my opinion worth is.

I have the Walther USA version. Ensure that the store you are buying from is not going to restock S&W. Buy it with a clear conscious.

There are ads for retical sights, night sights, lasers and tac flash lights. SO they are available.

Good Shopping.

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by David Berkowitz:
While I do not own one, I am contemplating getting a P99 in 40S&W.
A few questions, if I may, based on your comments.
Hube & Gus, both of you mention the weirdness of the trigger and that it is not smooth as it comes form the factory. I have not fired one as there is no range in my area that rents these, but in checking them out at the store, I found them to be very crisp breaking and the equal in smoothness to anything else. The SW99 was nowhere near as good. Do you have early models and maybe the later ones were more finely polished? Did yours start out smooth and maybe pickup grit in the lube that needed to be cleaned out?
Gus, you mention yours is made in Germany. Where else are they made? I know Interarms imported then, then Walther USA imported, and now S&W. Did Walther USA actually assemble them here or were they only the importer?
Both of you mention jams or failures to feed. How sensitive to ammo selection is pistol?
Thanks,
Dave
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[This message has been edited by hube1236 (edited July 11, 2000).]
 
I still have the manual, I will scan in the appropriate pages and email directly. Legion, I have your request, anybody else?
 
I have both the 9mm (QPQ finish slide w/high caps) and a .40 S&W version, Though the .40 is 1 of 10 limited edition James Bond Version, so i haven't (and wont) shoot it.

I love my 9mm, accurate and reliable! Just wish I could carry it (to big for how i dress) I own better firearms for CCW (size wise).

As for cleaning, just the standard field strip.

As for the trigger, i called Earls repair and was quoted $65 for a trigger job. But i can drive there, no $35 UPS charge
 
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by hube1236:
No, I meant that most of the P99's are in 9mm. I have not yet met one who owns 40 except you. There are about 7 of us, I am surprised that no one else has chimed in.
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I knew what you meant. I guess I wasn't clear with my reply. I would think that the majority of P99/SW99 would be sold in .40. I mean, it's a new gun, so full capacity mags will never be available to us Citizens. So, you have a choice of 10-9mm or 10-.40. For the same size/weight package, in a self defense/carry gun (which the P99 was designed for) it just seems logical to pick 10 rounds of .40 over 10 rounds of 9mm. Oh well, just like everything else, I guess it just comes down to personal preference.
 
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