Allen_Raiford
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I have heard that the P7's recoil is violent, from some sources. From others, I have heard that is the softest recoiling 9mm on the planet. Which is true?
P7M8 recoil. Harsh or not?
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Dave Finfrock
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Since when does any 9mm have "harsh" recoil?
The P7 certainly doesn't. It has little muzzle-rise or kick. This is a full sized, steel 9mm pistol. It's recoil is negligable.
The P7 certainly doesn't. It has little muzzle-rise or kick. This is a full sized, steel 9mm pistol. It's recoil is negligable.
I don't have a personal experience with the P7, but an author (Gene Gangarossa, I think) claims that the gas mechanisms of guns like the P7 and the Steyr GB greatly reduce recoil impulse by bleeding some of the gas to operate the slide.
Of course, this is the same author who says that .380ACP straight blowback guns have little recoil (which I personally find to the contrary).
Recoil being a subjective perception that it is, I find that you can never tell until you try the gun personally.
Skorzeny
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Of course, this is the same author who says that .380ACP straight blowback guns have little recoil (which I personally find to the contrary).
Recoil being a subjective perception that it is, I find that you can never tell until you try the gun personally.
Skorzeny
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Allen_Raiford
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Dave,
Do you speak from experience? I don't consider the P7M8 to be full size, ymmv, and although it is steel framed, it still only weighs 27 oz. Thank you.
Do you speak from experience? I don't consider the P7M8 to be full size, ymmv, and although it is steel framed, it still only weighs 27 oz. Thank you.
Allen_Raiford
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So, you are saying that the P7 is pretty tame. I have never shot one, and have no opportunity to do so at this time. I had read conflicting reports here on the net.
i own the P7M8...excellent gun with barely any muzzle flip. felt recoil is subjective, but for me, it doesn't feel abusive at all.
what some people may find is that because of the thin width of the grip, one might feel the gun recoil more in the web of the hand due to a small area on the backstrap compared to other 9mm handguns. the energy is focused more into a smaller area due to the thin grip. does that make sense?
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what some people may find is that because of the thin width of the grip, one might feel the gun recoil more in the web of the hand due to a small area on the backstrap compared to other 9mm handguns. the energy is focused more into a smaller area due to the thin grip. does that make sense?
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Mik
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The DIRECT answer to your question. A properly functioning P7--all the 9mm versions--has less felt recoil than ANY other major caliber defensive pistol. This is mainly a function of the gas system, but also related to the low bore axis. Apparently if the gas piston is highly worn, or if the gas chamber is cracked, the P7 can recoil heavily; I've heard of this occasionally, but the gun is so over-engineered--designed for 100,000+ firings--that it's difficult to imagine anyone ever wearing a piston or a gas chamber out.
Allen_Raiford
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Thanks. Question answered satisfactorily.
what Dave Finfrock said
Since when does any 9mm have "harsh" recoil?
The P7 certainly doesn't have "harsh recoil by any means. It has little muzzle-rise or kick. It's recoil is negligable.
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BKs Pistol Pages
Since when does any 9mm have "harsh" recoil?
The P7 certainly doesn't have "harsh recoil by any means. It has little muzzle-rise or kick. It's recoil is negligable.
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BKs Pistol Pages
Forseti is right.
Inexperienced shooters are usually very pleasantly surprised on firing a P7-series gun for the first time, due to the minimal felt recoil of this gun compared to other 9mm pistols they've shot.
My wife preferred the P7M8 the first time she shot it, to her Glock 19, with which she was quite proficient.
The P7 has trivial perceived recoil.
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Inexperienced shooters are usually very pleasantly surprised on firing a P7-series gun for the first time, due to the minimal felt recoil of this gun compared to other 9mm pistols they've shot.
My wife preferred the P7M8 the first time she shot it, to her Glock 19, with which she was quite proficient.
The P7 has trivial perceived recoil.
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"Potius sero quam nunquam."
thequickad
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I would agree that the P7M8's recoil is negligible. But my P7 does seem to want to twist to the right while recoiling. It is a weird sensation. I shot my friend's P7 and it did the samething. Definitely right angular momentum.
Sam Norton
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ClydeVA Said it best. I have a Glock 24, an East German Makarov, and the P7M8 Every one of the 5 new shooters I have taken shooting all like P7 the best. Its quicker recoil curve makes an experienced shooter think it is going to kick hard, then it over. "After" you get used to it nothing else seems as good.
Best Regards
Sam
Best Regards
Sam