P11 Longevity?

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catmath 1911

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Hello All,

I am leaning towards purchasing a Kel-Tec P11, and was wondering how durable this gun would be do to the aluminum internal frame? How many rounds has anyone heard of a P11 shooting and still surviving? Thanks to all who respond.

catmath 1911
 
Its really a moot point: you will want to trade it off long before you wear it out.

Your trigger finger will probably wear out from that god-awful trigger pull before the gun does.



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That`s right,the trigger pull is a staggering 8.5lbs. and it`s about as long as a big DA revolver. :rolleyes: It *feels* long and heavy to many folks because the gun is so small and light. Don`t let anyone kid you,if you can shoot a DA revolver (most of which have DA pulls over 10lbs.) you`ll do just fine with a P-11. I`ve had mine for about 5 years and put well over 7000rds. through it,many +Ps. Only 2 jams in that time,1 shooter DOH! and 1 FTF a little while ago with cheapo Winchester whitebox. It`s still as tight as new,no signs of wear other than the parkerized finish and it`ll still put 10rds. in the head of a silouette target at 15yds. offhand no sweat. Marcus
 
Come on . . .

Fired 150+ rounds through my P11 this weekend with any finger injury or damage whatsoever. Now while that doesn't attest to the longevity of my sweet little 9mm, it does go toward proving that some of us must have better grip strength than others. I suggest those rubber balls full of goo that you squeeze, you can do wonders for those weak fingers and at the same time make your grip much stronger.

If I am correct, with a lifetime warranty if anything goes wrong with your P11 then the fine folks at Kel-tec will be fixing it for free. I do know a couple guys who are into the 1000+ range with their P11's with little or now wear (or reliability issues). Good luck.

mlk18
 
catmath 1911,

You won't regret getting a P11. The alloy frame promises better durability than the Kahr or Taurus polymer frame, and history already seems to be proving that out.

P11's used to come with 10+# triggers, but it was reduced to 8.5# some time ago. I reduced mine to 6.5# and shortened the travel so it has now what I call a "perfect" DAO trigger.

Small, durable, light, 10+1 capacity, serious cartridge, handles +P+ loads, cheap, and with a lifetime warranty. Hard to beat all that!

I have to admit, though, that I've enjoyed tinkering with it as much as anything else about the P11....
 
I know this a little off topic, But would a mini-firestorm 9mm be a better choice for durability and ease of shooting (recoil)?

thanks,

catmath 1911
 
I had over 7k rounds through my second-hand P11 (early 20nnn serial #) when I noticed some cracks in the slide. Called Cliff at Keltec - sent them slide, received back a totally new slide - no charge. Maybe it will live forever? They are good people and back up their product 110%.

Regards,
Jim
 
For this exact type of gun and this application yes many of us are perfectly happy with an 8.5lb. trigger. Since folks have made due just fine with 10-15lb. triggers on DA revolvers for about a bajillion years it looks to me like the world (at least in this regard) is getting better. ;) Marcus
 
Is the P-11 a target gun?

No.

Do you need to learn to shoot it? Yes....but not in an IDPA match.

The pocket guns, J-Frame, Keltecs etc are for close quarters self defense, not for practicing with multiple boxes of shells each weekend.

If you want a carry weapon that you can enjoy shooting and practicing with all the time, get a wonderful 1911 custom, like a Kimber or a Springfield.

Cheers
 
By the time you can get your revolver out of the holster and pointed in the general vicinity of your target, you can have it cocked.
 
Right.... It's pointed at the target and cocked. Too bad you don't have a firing grip on it yet. That's WHY DA was invented....
 
P11's used to come with 10+# triggers, but it was reduced to 8.5# some time ago. I reduced mine to 6.5# and shortened the travel so it has now what I call a "perfect" DAO trigger.
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OK, I'm intrigued. How did you reduced the trigger pull and the travel? The only thing I've done to mine is to polish the feed ramp. While I've gotten used to the long hard pull, double-taps aren't the easiest with the weapon.
 
KelTec warranty is valid, believe me.

My P11 drove me nuts at times, but I'll say great things about their lifetime warranty. I had mine sent in twice and the second time, they replaced the ENTIRE GUN, with the exception of the handle. The thing pinched my trigger finger after each shot, it ejected hot brass all over my head and was an "equal-opportunity malfunctioner." That is it malfunctioned on just about every type of ammo I tried in it. However, as a former KTOG forum member, MOST of the P11's were amazingly reliable and durable. Man, that's a pretty formidible close-quarter defense weapon with 11 rounds of 9mm at your disposal. Go ahead and get one, they're cheap and if you can get used to the Loooooong trigger pull, you may fall in love with it.
 
Antipitas & 22lovr,

Go to "The Smithy" forum on TFL (this is "The Semiauto Forum"), and look for the thread titled "Blackhawk's Kel-Tec P11 Trigger Job." It's got all the steps to reduce the trigger pull length to 0.55", the trigger pull itself to 6.5#, and how to move the trigger arc to the rear of the guard.

The thread was recently put up so it's probably still near the top.

Found the URL. It's: http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=102735
 
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