Over Lubricating and Malfunctions

dalyar67

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hey guys I went to the range to shoot today and my Taurus 45 started jamming and dropping the magazine after every shot. Now the night before I cleaned it and lubed it thoroughly as always but I've never had a malfunction before. Could it be that I sprayed too much lube around the mag well and such? I REALLY NEED SOME HELP ON THIS!!!! It's been FRUSTRATING ME ALL DAY!!!!


can this sort of thing happen with over-lubing the gun. It has always been reliable up to this point. PLEASE help me out with pointers, tips, and suggestions. Thanks a lot, Dave:confused:
 
lube? don't think so

One of the very best competitive shooters I've ever known said (somewhat jokingly and somewhat seriously) that your pistol should splatter lube onto your shooting glasses when you shoot....his point was that a dry gun would lock up....regardless of how "tuned", how expensive, how "custom".....metal to metal requires lubricant...so I doubt that's your problem
 
A little neighborhood kid was driving my wife and I crazy with his squeeky tricycle. So being a good samaritan, I went out and lubed everything for him with WD-40. A while later I saw a pissed off Dad tightening this wobbly trike with a wrench. It had a been held together with rust. Ahh, sweet revenge. :D

I'll bet whatever broke on your gun was just about to go anyway, and the lube just helped it.

Dwight M S
 
thanks for the help, I really think you're right about the mag catch cuz the mag was coming out about half an inch on recoil of a shot and then the gun would jam. Last night I dried out the whole gun and re-lubed it (very lightly with q-tips around the mag area) and I couldn't get the mag to even budge when trying to pull the trigger and reproduce the recoil while pulling on the mag with my free hand. Any other tips would be appreciated guys as I am going to go back to the range and test out my theory today.
THANKS, DAVE
 
OVER-LUBE

It's not the lube, in my opinion, it's an equipment problem. If it were too much lube, none of my many handguns would function.

And yes, I've been known to get a little oil spray on my shooting glasses!!!
 
"One of the very best competitive shooters I've ever known said (somewhat jokingly and somewhat seriously) that your pistol should splatter lube onto your shooting glasses when you shoot"

I'm betting he was a 1911 shooter. I think some guns love a lot of lube, but not all.
 
I don't get oil spray anymore because I switched to Tetra Gun grease. I put it on every moving part and slide surface I can reach and I put it on thick. On 10 handguns and about 50k rounds, I've had zero lube-related problems. It stays put and basically reduces wear to zero.
 
Any spray oil will be designed to penetrate and may contaminate ammo by seeping past the primer or the seated bullet. I use military weapon lube but very sparingly. I actually prefer my guns to be nearly dry for firing because I am used to working in very cold weather and I have had oil freeze and lock up a gun.
 
I used to have a stainless Sig P230 that performed fine after cleaning as long as you wiped off all but a residue of lubricant from the rails/ slide grooves. However, if you left even a little bit of lube, it would jam. Bizarre.
 
Had a similar problem with a Ruger P-90 once. Years of reliable functioning, and then I started having the magazine catch releasing the magazine under recoil ... Turned out to be a weakening magazine catch spring. Don't overlook the possibility of it being some debris temporaily stuck to the most unlikely, and also most unfavorable, spot on the "inside" of the catch, too, creating a temporary tolerance & "reliability" problem. Or, a burr ... or wear ... on the catch itself.

As far as the lubricating issue ... while it may make you you feel better, excessive and unnecessary lubrication can become a problem in some circumstances. Annoying on one hand, and perhaps potentially life threatening on the other ... In some situations excessive lubrication can cause problems that might not otherwise ordinarily occur. Use caution.

I've seen more than a few exposed/uniform and concealed weapons that experienced misfires and malfunctions directly because of excessive lubrication and solvent application (part of improper cleaning & maintenance). In a couple instances, solvent AND/OR lubricant that had been applied excessively, or in unnecessary areas, had run and gathered in the firing pin channel ... and eventually created firing pins that looked more like messy and caked 4X4 truck shock absorber springs ... In these cases the springs were so dirty and packed with debris they wouldn't compress enough to allow primer hits sufficient to ignite the chambered round. Luckily, these happened on the range, but with duty weapons that had been carried daily since the last "cleaning".

If this is merely a "range" or "competition" firearm, that's one thing ... but ...
 
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