(OT) Simpsons Question

crobrun

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Did anyone see the episode sunday where lisa lost a band competition and complained to Pres Clinton. He gives some stupid comment and Marge says something like "that's lousy advice". And Clinton says "well, I'm a lousy presidient"
1) boy did I laught at that
2) what were the exact lines - I see a new line on my signature.
thanks all

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Belasarius:
in the beginning of the simpsons when Maggie is run over the supermarket checkout the display flashes "NRA4EVER" [/quote]

that was a 'joke' on one of the "Best of" episodes, it does not really say that, if you tape an episode and run it in slow it is an actual price, $126.??

from all of the episodes i have viewed, the producers are just as anti as most others in Hollyweird
 
I dont' know if it was only a one time deal. Simpsons is relatively libertarian/conservative. In the episode where homer gets a gun and uses it to turn off appliances, he also joins a gun club, whos members all yell at him for unsafe gun usage.
 
Belisarius, it wasn't a one-time deal. It never ran. It was a made-up trivia question on the best-of show. Another scene on the same show was the "exclusive interview with Matt Groening" which depicted Groening as a bald old man with an eyepatch. As they open the door, he puts down a bottle of whiskey, shouts "Git outta mah office!" and peppers the doorway with shots from large nickel-plated revolver.
Funny, but not pro-gun. They do a great job of being evenhanded despite their anti-gun bias, though, enough to keep me a happy viewer. We can't expect everyone to agree with us, but as you said, it's nice to see them work at being fair. If the evening news were as fair as the Simpsons I'd bitch a lot less--which ought to be a source of shame for the evening news.
 
In defense of the Simpson's, the writers and animators are equal-opportunity satirists. I've noticed that they take pop-shots at just about anything and everything. They aren't overly malicious toward the Left or Right from what I've seen.
 
To answer the original poster's question, that was the episode where Lisa's school band had entered into some "battle of the bands" contest and had lost to the Ogdenville band, who used (illegal) visual aids in the form of glow-sticks. "Illegal" not meaning a violation of state, local or federal law, but meaning of the rules of the contest.

Klinton's line (not verbatim) had been to the effect of thanking Lisa for advancing the American way, which was "if you want something bad enough, just complain about it until you get your way". Sorry, I don't know the exact words for your .sig but it's the general idea.

My take on the Simpsons is that it is subtly pro-gun, but not outrageously so. Matt Groening probably has to get all the pro-gun messages past the nice PC censors at Fox.

Examples from the episode where Homer gets a gun for home protection.

True, the NRA people are portrayed as semi-wacko (Lenny is shown with the latest super-duper gun with all sorts of doodads hanging off it saying it's needed to hunt deer) but they end up saving the Simpsons from an armed intruder at the end of the episode. To me, this demonstrates that firearms can be used (and are often used) in self-defense and defense of others, contrary to HCI's blatherings.

Furthermore, the NRA members are not just Cletus (the slack-jawed yokel) but include Dr. Hibbert, a professional. This demonstrates that gun owners come from all walks of life, including the highly educated. We ain't all rednecks.

Homer, while at the gunstore, is very dismayed at the three day waiting period ("THREE DAYS? BUT I'M MAD NOW!!!"). I didn't think this was particularly pro-gun, but then again I'm ticked off by a waiting period too.

I don't recall if it's in this episode or not, but Lisa goes off on how the 2A is outdated and should be repealed, etc. Grandpa admonishes her by stating that without firearms, the King of England could waltz into their home and they couldn't kick him out. This is a veiled reference to the Third Amendment (right against having soldiers quartered in your home) and how the Second Amendment enforces the Third (and all the rest of the Bill of Rights). It also shows the real purpose of the Second Amendment -- it's not hunting, it's not sport, it's not self defense, it's to prevent government tyrrany.

Marge had forbidden Homer to get the gun in the first place, and even moved herself and the kids out to a motel when Homer refused to get rid of it. In the end, even after the NRA people save her skin (with guns) from the armed intruder, she insists that Homer get rid of the gun. Homer relents and throws the gun away in the trash can. The very last scene in the episode is Marge picking the gun out of the trash, twirling it around and putting it in a holster. To me, this is Diane Feinstein (the gun banner who has a CCL) and Rosie O'Donnell (the gun hater who has a gun-toting bodyguard) rolled into one -- it demonstrates the hypocrisy of many anti's, who have the "do as I say, not as I do" mentality.

I'm sure there are more pro-gun leanings in the episode where Mr. Burns is shot by an unknown assailant ("How can you have a house without a gun??").

Boy that was long. But whaddya say?

Justin

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[This message has been edited by jthuang (edited August 09, 2000).]
 
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"[Even if there would be] few tears shed if and when the Second Amendment is held to guarantee nothing more than the state National Guard, this would simply show that the Founders were right when they feared that some future generation might wish to abandon liberties that they considered essential, and so sought to protect those liberties in a Bill of Rights. We may tolerate the abridgement of property rights and the elimination of a right to bear arms; but we should not pretend that these are not reductions of rights." -- Justice Scalia 1998
 
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