OT but we love beating up on PETA! "criticized for euthanizing strays"

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PETA criticized for euthanizing strays
Thursday, August 10, 2000

According to PETA, champion of animal rights, there is no good reason to kill animals.
So why did they?

Critics call it the height of hypocrisy: People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals, which wants to ban meat, milk, leather, Sea World and the circus in the name of animal rights, last year euthanized 1,300 stray dogs and cats in Virginia.

"It's terrible they have to be euthanized, horrible, but what choice is there?" says PETA's Jane Garrison. "You can't just let them go, you'll have millions of animals running the streets."

Precisely the argument others have made for years. Now PETA is having to defend itself against its own kind.

"So many of these animals coming off the street and other difficult situations can be rehabilitated," says Francis Battista of Best Friends Animal Sanctuary, a "no-kill" shelter in Utah. "It simply means investing the time, money, energy and attention."

"The problem is the overpopulation of animals," PETA's Garrison argues. "That is where the problem lies. For every human born, seven dogs and cats are born."

Garrison says the animals were sick, helpless, vicious, and unadoptable. Killing them was the only humane thing to do.

"It is hard to imagine that out of all these animals, some were not treatable," counters Battista.

Longtime PETA critics find it ironic: animal lovers justifying their slaughter while condemning others.

"It appears to be a complete reversal, considering they don't want you stepping on ants," says Dr. Rudy Rosen of the Safari Club International. "PETA has come face to face with the practical realities of animal population control."

A reality that leaves 20 years of in-your-face activism with a lot of explaining to do.

— Fox News' William La Jeunesse contributed to this report
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Can you say hypocrite! Man the logic never seems to stop does it?



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Try to take away my gun...and you will see my 2nd Amendment Right in ACTION!!! -Me

FOR THE CHILDREN!!!!
 
I remember seeing a news story a few weeks ago about an oil spill, possibly off the coast of South Africa. Some very dedicated people were there to capture and clean up the wildlife affected by the mess. I wondered at the time if PETA was there, helping do something truly befificial or were they too busy breaking into research facilities in order to set the lab rats free.
 
Make no mistake, those PETA folks are organized and are willing to die for their cause. They are dangerous extremists that have toned down their public speak to attract more sympathy. Of course they have the Hollywood rock head crowd behind them squarely, all except for the smart ones like Selleck and Shroeder.

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"Get yourself a Lorcin and lose that nickel plated sissy pistol."
 
Seems that you are all a little bit misinformed. The terrorist group you speak about is ALF ( animal liberation front ), not PETA.
When I was in the USA, I met some PETA activists and they seemed to be intelligent, moderate people.
I mean, I don't know what you consider radical, but for example to criticize a$$holes who still wear fur coats of endangered species in my opinion isn't.

Moreover, I think for a modern, rich country
like the USA, it's a shame that so many animals have to be put to sleep every year.
Thinking about all these dogs and cats which are threated like trash makes me cry.
The solution is mandatory neutering of these animals not killing them. Even coutries like Spain and Greece seem to beginn to comprehend this.

Don't get me wrong- I still think that the USA, with all the garanteed freedom we Europeans lack, is the best democratic country in the world- but this is one of the
few downsides.
 
The animal rights activists' closely mirror the anti-gun activists' goals. They advocate complete bans on pets through neutering and spaying. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out what will happen to dogs and cats if every last one of them is neutered or spayed.

They are willing to let rich people have dogs and cats by allowing breeding kennels to operate. Of course the kennel has to be licensed and a tax paid on every litter of dogs and cats that are bred. Some of the proposals that have been suggested in California's legislature would have required an outrageous annual tax just to have one intact female dog in my house.

I live in a rural area. My closest neighbor is 3/8ths. of a mile away. On my forty acres I can have horses, cows, ducks, chickens, geese, goats, etc. However, if I want more than four dogs I must have a kennel license, pay the attendant fee, and have my kennel inspected once a year. Kind of sounds like Chuckie Schumer's arsenal license doesn't it?

I have two breeds of dogs in my house, whippets and dachshunds. Fortunately they are good natured and have never harmed anyone. If I had pit bulls for example, or dogs that resembled that breed like American Staffordshire Terriers, I would be treated like I had a collection of every semi-automatic military rifle in existance.
If I remember correctly, there was a thread on this list about how France has banned pit bulls and expects to wipe them out within a generation by a mandatory spay and neuter law.

In my view, the Animal Liberation Front is just a militant offshoot of PETA. Just as the Irish Republican Army is the action arm of Sein Fenn.
 
Cato,

No, I'm well informed. PETA is the public wing of clandestine groups like ALF. They've toned down their rhetoric to be more palatable. Of course they sound reasonable. Have you ever had a conversation with a person from HCI or MMM? They sound reasonable to get your support.

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"Get yourself a Lorcin and lose that nickel plated sissy pistol."
 
My, My, My!! How WE are ready to jump on someone else's "cause" and believe every thing you have read or heard from the media. I'm not saying that PETA hasn't been a bit extreme on some of their issues (just like some TFLer's I know), but if you had witnessed some of the torture animals suffer in the name of 'food consumption' or 'beauty products' or 'hormone replacement therapy,' you might be radical too. I don't know where you ever got the idea these people get a lot of money (personal income that is) for what they do. I personally was involved with the local humane society, and YES, a member of PETA. Alex Pacheco , President of PETA has been to my home! gasp!! You know, you guys and gals don't like it when someone comes and slams you for your opinions, pro-gun marketing tactics and the NRA. It might be best if you just kept your thoughts to yourselves until you have ALL the facts. Millions of animals are euthanized each year because we Americans are a throw away society. If it is too much trouble... throw it away. If it doesn't meet my expectations... throw it away. If I'm tired of it and want something else... throw it away!!! Humane Societies and organizations like PETA are the animal garbage dumps of this society. No one wants to take responsibility for anything anymore, especially if it means inconveniencing them.
You call Animal Rights Activitists "dangerous extremists?" Well I live with the MOST "Dangerous extremist" there could possibly be... middle aged white male (and a Viet Nam veteran).... Christian (we all know THEY are dangerous)... Pro gun nut (very extreme!yea!) and a vegetarian, animal rights activist! Oh no :eek:
 
Actually, 300 in a year aint so many...when I worked with animal control 300 in two days was 'norm'. I hated the job BTW, but you get a lot of mean people in this world who don't take care of their pets. [[or kids]]

The girl who seems to be the front for PETA...brunette with kinda short hair...she's a doll. Any PETA people wanna introduce us? :)

Oh, and we are a Constitutional Republic. Not a damned DEMOCRACY.
 
Carl cravenly crunched on the carrot, cruely cogitating on the horrendous pain and suffering that his now dead snack had undergone. Torn from its nurturing soil just as it was reaching the prime of life, its many rootlets brutaly ripped off, the very source of it's energy twisted from its top and coldly thrown into the trash.

We must go into the homes and schools and put a stop to this vicious vegetable vitiation.




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Sam I am, grn egs n packin

Nikita Khrushchev predicted confidently in a speech in Bucharest, Rumania on June 19, 1962 that: " The United States will eventually fly the Communist Red Flag...the American people will hoist it themselves."
 
Well, if we're not supposed to eat animals, why are they all made out of meat? ;)


PETA is not my cup of tea. They don't want us to drink milk, wear leather shoes, or have bacon and eggs for breakfast. As you can imagine, they're not big fans of hunting or fishing either. ;)

OTOH, I note some sad cases cited on their web site, and understand some of their concern. I have no patience with people that abuse animals, but PETA and their allies go to far.

For an interesting perspective on PETA, check out http://www.nj.npri.org/nj98/09/peta.htm

Regards from AZ
 
I saw one of their head people (PETA) on Hannity and colmes about a month ago Hannity tore him up, it was the protest against eating rats on that survival show. This idiot went so far as to say mosquitoes that could possible have nile fever "would be a hard call whether to spray them or not", ya anyway.

Cure for diseased strays is .243 55gr Ballistic tip @ over 4000. Dont even have to dispose of the body, MIST.

"How can you shoot women and children? Easy, you just don't lead em so much, ain't war hell!"
 
Now wait a minute here, just because I don't support PETA or other extremists doesn't mean I'm for animal cruelty. PETA wants to ban hunting so that animals can overpopulate and starve to death, PETA wants to ban fishing because it's cruel, PETA wants to end the dairy industry so no one will be able to eat anymore Cherry Garcia, PETA wants to end the leather industry so that no one can have nice holsters anymore, etc. etc.

There's a difference between being against cruelty to animals and being a blind extremist that would have you believe that no animal testing is necessary. How do you think the majority of drugs came about? For there to be cholesterol lowering drugs some animals had to die, for bypass surgeries to be perfected some animals had to die, such is the way of the world. If unethical and unncessary experimentation is taking place it should be stopped and the law provides for that. If animals are being abused it should be punished, and there are local ordinances against this already. I don't need someone to tell me I cannot eat ice cream, wear leather, or use drugs that were developed through ethical animal experimentation.

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"Get yourself a Lorcin and lose that nickel plated sissy pistol."

[This message has been edited by Tecolote (edited August 13, 2000).]
 
Cato, what would you have us do with all thies dogs an cats, I have some traps set to catch one of those Damn dogs that ate one of my chickens, when I catch it, it is Buzzard meat." long live the Buzzard"

How about we send them to you, you can eat them in a PETA, I think that is something served in Mexican restraunts, but not dog or cat, but you might become a hit serving Dog PETA`S. Probly better than eating MAD cow`s

WE have to many DEER in TX. Shoot more eat more. :D

Santana, thank you, this is a Republic.


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" Stupidity " Strange as it may seem, no amount of learning can cure stupidity, and formal education positively fortifies it.
( Stephen Vizinczey, 1933 )
 
As the recipient of double by-pass surgery, after a near fatal heart attack in May 1991, I'm quite appreciative of the fact that an animal or a number of animals probably died to perfect this procedure. Nothing gets your attention or reminds you more of your mortality like being within minutes from death. I don't like to see animals abused but unlike the freaks from PETA I don't rate an animal's life the same as a human. I find it ironic that a few years ago the head of PETA, a woman whose name I don't remember, under went the same surgery as I did. If she really believed in her organization and it's purported values, she would have refused the surgery on the grounds it violated an animal's right to life. However, she didn't. How may ways can you spell hipocracy? Having spent a number of years in Gemany and other countries of the world, it really galls me when europeans critcize the US. I speak from experiecne when I say that I could not live in Europe. Their lives are so regimented and controlled by the government that it would be intollerable to most Americans, except the liberal Democraps, of course it would not apply to them. PETA speaking against animal cruelty is like Al Gore speaking against illegal campaign contributions. It's all about control over what you think and do.
 
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>How may ways can you spell hipocracy?[/quote]

Well, apparently, at least two. ;) ;)

I'm sorry, George ... you just hit my funny bone, real hard. ;)

Live and let live. Regards from AZ
 
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Cato:

Don't get me wrong- I still think that the USA, with all the garanteed freedom we Europeans lack, is the best democratic country in the world- but this is one of the
few downsides.[/quote]

With freedom comes responsibility.
 
Ingrid Newkirk came here from England and founded the U.S. "PETA". She is the one who stated for the record, "A rat is a pig is a dog is a boy."

She is on record, as are many of her disciples, of stating that the eating of meat; or ranching, hunting, having dairy farms and owning pets, should be outlawed. There should be no medical research using any animal.

ALF, the Animal Liberation Front, is on the FBI list of terrorist organizations. Their terrorist actions apparently exceed that of all other terrorist groups combined. PETA is always informed of the action, the results as "spun" by ALF, and provides dissemination. PETA usually accompanies the dissemination of ALF's deeds with the cop-out of, "We decry violence, but..."

An ally in PETA's efforts is the Humane Society of the United States (HSUS), which has nothing at all to do with animal shelters nor with cruel treatment of animals in the traditional dictionary meaning of cruelty. Their "line" and PETA's are, for all practical purposes, identical.

Regards, Art
 
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