(OT) Bob Knight was fired today

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One of the best coaches in College basketball was fired today. He supposedly grabbed the arm of a student after the guy asked him "Hey whats up Knight"
http://www.msnbc.com/news/457942.asp

Of course one interesting point is that this guy was the Son of Knights most vocal opponents. I have sent several nasty emails so far tonight and word from the campus is that MANY students and teachers are ready to walk. God I am pissed.
 
Good riddance. He has deserved to be canned for years. The guy is an arrogant, abusive bully. I simply could not care less about the game of basketball, so my opinion has nothing to do with jealousy or rivalry. Fact is, the guy is a monumental jerk. What took the administration of the school so long?
No doubt you disagree Kevinw, and you say you're angry, but let's be realistic, OK? No teacher in their right mind is going to "walk", and in the process jeopordize their career, in protest of his well deserved firing. No student in their right mind is going to "walk", and in the process jeopordize their academic future, in protest of his firing. Period.
The only people who are mourning this conceited bully's canning are supporters of IU. Virtually everyone else on the planet is having a good chuckle right now, including me.
If you want to think there is some conspiracy behind the incident that finally did this monster in, so be it. Fact is, Bobby (you-better-fear-me) Knight has only one person to blame for his current status as unemployed, and that person is Bobby Knight. I don't care how many games this abuser won. If he went his entire career without losing a single game, he still deserved to be fired years ago. You can't treat people like he did without it eventually catching up to you. The drinks are on me, folks.
 
Like I said on another board. It is funny how everyone refuses to listen to the Media on anything else but on this you eat up whatever sh!t they dish out and call it a steak.

I have met Bob Knight on more than one occasion. He is very gruff and heavy handed. But he was never abusive to anyone. If he put is hand on your shoulder or arm in a friendly gesture or to get your attenton then you would know it. He has a grip like an Ox. Tis is not to be confused with the **** that is being reported.

He is outspoken yes. But the fact is he is no worse than many people here. The only difference is that we are not in the spotlke. Knight was a good man despite at some people who don't know tier A$$ from thier face might say.

Knight Unlike most coaches out there does't give a **** how well you play ball. You could be the best there is. ut if you don't keep up in your classwork and stay inline your ass was gone. He would take the bottum of the barrel skill wise as long as they had drive, dedication, and faith. He would not tolerate people who were full of themselves or thought they were better than anyone else. It was a team. And most of all he admitted his mistakes. How many people can say that? Yes I think he is someone to look up to. I respect him and think IU is making a big mistake.

Oh and Yes I think people would walk. It is called Respect, Dedication and friendship. Some of thr things this world has almost forgot about.

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Interesting. Two sides already. As I see it, nobody to blame except Bobby Knight.

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Perfect Kevinw. I offer up an opinion on an extremely controversial figure. An opinion, by the way, that you know is held by themajority(that is if you factor in the universe outside IU) and you resort to a personal attack against someone because they disagree with you. Quite mature, sir, and no surprise at all coming from someone who is obviously being anything but objective about the matter. I'd say you and ol' unemployed Bob deserve each other. Better polish up the "jerk" moniker, friend. I have the feeling you'll have many chances to use it when you bring up this subject. I reiterate and amplify my earlier remarks:Bobby (I'll-abuse-anyone-who-opposes-me) Knight has noone to blame for his predicament except Bobby Knight. He deserves what he got. The only indignation that should be shown in this matter is that it took so very long to get around to doling out the Justice.

And you are fooling your self if you think anyone is going to sacrifice their future for this bully. They may go out on campus and stomp around and yell for CNN, but when push comes to shove (Gee, I don't know why that phrase came to mind) noone-NOONE is going to sacrifice themselves for this jerk. Give me a break. Yeah, Kevinw, I have no doubt in my mind that Sir Knight would do the same for you, since he obviously loves his fellow man so very, very much... :rolleyes:

Yeah, a big whoppin' healthy dose of truth is hard to swallow, huh friend? Don't feel alone, Kevinw, 'cause Bobby (what-do-I-do-now?) Knight is chokin' on the same bitter horsepill.

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Let's get real, he wasn't fired just because 'He supposedly grabbed the arm of a student after the guy asked him "Hey whats up Knight"' That was just the last straw. Mr Knight agreed to the "zero tolerance" policy, I guess he was confused by what "zero" means.

I could care less about the incident. In the end he will get what he deserves, just like all of us.

Peace,
Keith
 
If he had any 'unwanted physical contact' with anyone then he is guilty of criminal battery and should be arrested. If he continues to conduct himself in a socially unacceptable fashion and continues to batter people then he should lose his job and go to jail. I have seen video on TV of him physically battering a basketball player. I am not into sports and I did not know who this bozo was until I got here a few months ago, but it seems that this has been going on for awhile and someone finally filed a police report.
 
The man has a long, well-documented history of thuggary. Good riddance. He should have become unemployed years ago.
 
Kev, I respect your opinion but I have to say I am glad he finally got fired. His 'temper' brings thoughts too close to home for me. I can't see how screaming at players and degrading them will make them work harder or play better. The coach is a big part of the team, he can't have total control, they all need to work together. I can't understand why he wasn't sent to an anger management class a long time ago. Being strict and tough is one thing but this guy went way out of line. I don't care what the media says, I have seen him throw 'tantrums' like a child and throw chairs on TV, it just doesn't seem very professional to me.

Just my $.02 :)
 
Bobby Knight has a LOT in common personality-wise with another very talented, very famous coach who met his career end in a similar fashion -- Woody Hayes of Ohio State.

Hayes, if you'll recall, punched a Florida State (I think) football player in a bowl game after the guy intercepted an OSU pass. He also had a littany of complaints against him by former players and others about his vitriolic temper, verbal and psychological abuse, etc.

Knight's had way too many very public incidents. No matter how good a coach is, he or she should not be allowed to act in this fashion.

Were it not this incident, there would have been another that would have resulted in the same outcome.

It's all very unfortunate that someone so brilliant has to come to such an end, but it's one of his own making.

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I could care less about sports (so why is this on a gun board, anyway?) but sounds like the guy was way overdue.

So enlighten me--what do games with various kinds of balls have to do with higher education anyway???

Oh, yeah--I forgot. Builds character.

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Robert Foote:
I could care less about sports (so why is this on a gun board, anyway?) but sounds like the guy was way overdue.

So enlighten me--what do games with various kinds of balls have to do with higher education anyway???

Oh, yeah--I forgot. Builds character.
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Wrong.

Money. BIG money. HYPER BIG Money.

It's said that Love makes the world go around, but the spindles are lubricated with money.


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Bobby Knight was WAY overdue. He should have been fired for throwing that chair years ago. He should have been fired for choking his player. Those two incidents are on tape, by the way, so there's no "supposedly" aspect to it. He should have been fired for his tantrum this summer when he smashed a vase against a wall to intimidate somebody's poor secretary. He should have been fired when he punched that guy in a restaurant awhile back. And he certainly deserves to be fired now, when he barely got away with his job earlier this summer. Anybody who got away with that ought to know he's on probation, so to speak, and Knight was told that explicitly.

Indiana did all they could (far too much, IMHO) to keep Knight on. They loved winning games, getting good recruits and making money. But even they can't tolerate Bobby Knight forever.

As for your personal knowledge of Knight, KevinW, I think what you meant to say was that he has never abused anyone in your presence. You have no way of knowing whehter he did so at other times. If he has never abused anyone, how do you explain videotape of him choking his own player? That is not a hand on the boy's shoulder in a friendly manner. I know you're not dishonest, Kevin, but you're mistaken this time.
 
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Dan in GA:
Mike, I believe that the football player that Woody Hayes punched was on the Clemson team......Dan in GA[/quote]

Dan,

Very well may have been. That was a long time ago, late 1970s/early 1980s, I believe.

Hayes died not too long after being fired.


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So, when is Dennis Rodman going to be fired?

Didn't he kick some guy in the genitalia a few back? What happened to him? Slap in the pocketbook?

Hell no, everybody laughed it up, and said, "Oh Well, that's Rodney"!

Or when Michael Irving was always in trouble with the local cops in Dallas. After repeated attempts to curb his "attitude", a judge ordered him to stay off limits of certain areas (strip bars).

Yeah right! A week later, he's busted again, and guess where. And if that isn't bad enough, he's caught on concealed tape doin' drugs, and bullsh!tt!ng some lady about stayting off drugs the same evening!! I know, I saw the footage myself.
Was he fired for representing the 'Boys in an unfavorable light? Hell NO!!!

Double standards time again I 'spose

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