Orlando hostage shot by police sniper

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Orlando hostage shot by police sniper
July 25, 2000
Web posted at: 8:14 p.m. EDT (0014 GMT)

http://www.cnn.com/2000/US/07/25/florida.hostages.02/index.html

ORLANDO, Florida (AP) -- A police sniper fired the shot that killed a woman being held hostage by a murder suspect during a three-day standoff, authorities said Tuesday.

The sniper was aiming for hostage-taker Jamie Dean Petron when Andrea Hall, 40, was hit, said Orlando Police Chief Jerry Demings.

Demings would not discuss details of the shooting, which the Florida Department of Law Enforcement is investigating.

The Orlando police officer who fired the shot, Christopher J. Savard, 34, an eight-year veteran who had been a certified sniper for more than two years, was placed on paid administrative leave pending the investigation.

Demings said the department expressed its condolences to Hall's family.

Several of Hall's relatives spent the day at the medical examiner's office and took the news hard, said Carl Hall, the victim's ex-husband.

"They are a very close family, very religious," he said. "She was a good woman."

Petron told police negotiators on Sunday afternoon that they shot someone when the sniper fired into the home, but authorities said he refused to let them into the house or release the injured hostage.

Demings said Petron also threatened to hurt the other hostages, children ranging in ages from about 8 months to 16 years old, if authorities tried to enter the home.

Store shooting led to hostage situation
The crime spree leading to the three-day hostage standoff began Friday, 200 miles to the south in Pompano Beach. Authorities there say Petron killed Jorge Trillos, 22, a store clerk, and wounded store owner Samir Hantash, 48. Hantash was hospitalized Monday in critical condition.

Orange County authorities were watching for Petron because he had a brother living in the area.

Police were on their way to the brother's house Saturday when a deputy spotted Petron and his car and tried to arrest him. He allegedly shot the officer in the thigh and fled to a nearby residential neighborhood less than 10 miles from Walt Disney World.

At the Meadow Woods subdivision, Thelma Mills was standing in her garage when Petron drove up and jumped out of the car armed with a semiautomatic .40-caliber handgun, authorities said.

Mills fled, but Petron stormed into the house and shot at her 28-year-old son, Norman West, police said. A bullet grazed West's head but he escaped.

Left inside were 40-year-old Andrea Hall, her 16-year-old niece, 8-year-old son, infant daughter and infant grandniece. Hall and Mills were sisters.

Petron spoke with negotiators, but police said they were concerned because of his broken promises and lack of demands. On Sunday, a police sharpshooter fired into the home but missed Petron.

Later that day, Petron released Nicholas Hall, 8, and his 11-month-old sister, Nicole. Petron had said he would free the others after the tape of a statement he made was aired on television.

But Hall, Althea Mills, 16, and 9-month-old Daniquea Akoon remained in the house until Monday.

On the tape, Petron said he didn't mean to hurt anyone.

"All I can say is deep in my heart I am really apologetic. Don't think I'm the devil. I'm not the devil," he said.

Petron committed suicide Monday afternoon, 51 hours after rushing into the family's home.

Althea Mills and the infant were found unharmed huddled inside a walk-in closet in the same room with the suspect's body. .

Records show Petron, a 41-year-old auto mechanic, was sentenced to 20 years in prison in 1986 for attempted first-degree murder, forgery and battery on a law enforcement officer. He was released from prison in 1995.

"My heart is breaking but a part of me is glad it's over," Evelyn Betheil, Petron's maternal grandmother, told The Miami Herald. "He did some really bad things and had to die."

The Associated Press contributed to this report.
 
If they had kept this idiot in prison the first time this would not have happened. The guy gets 20 years, serves 9 and is out. I hope the guys that paroled him realize how many lives this guy ruined. Our wonderful justice system at work.
 
Ok what should be done with this "Police Sniper", should he be arrested? I mean if he was anywhere near competent he should have been able to hit his target, and not kill the hostage!

What if any charges should be filed against him?

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If we arrest him, we should arrest every doctor that has ever killed a patient by misdiagnosis or simple human error.

The Orlando Team is well trained and professional. However, these are high risk situations and death by friendly fire is gonna happen. It's the department's responsibility to limit the FUBAR to the absolute minimum. If we want them to eliminate the cance of such occurence, simply disband the SWAT units and tell the hostages they're on their own.

An investigation is in order: What were the sniper's orders? How long was he "on the gun" before being given the "Go" command? What were the circumstances when the trigger was pressed?

Let's not get ahead of ourselves here. This was a hostage situation....far different than the actions at Ruby Ridge. However, it does remind us that the use of "special units" is dangerous and needs to be limited. Hostage and Barricade situations may be the only valid uses of such units.
Rich
 
Why not give the parole board the remander of the con's sentance?

In fact, make law that if a con is released early and goes back to crime, the parole board shall finish the remainder of the origional sentance.
 
I agree with Rich. An investigation is definitely in order. The question I have is what target criteria were given. I find it implausible to believe that a woman hostage could be mistaken for a male gunman. Whatever happened to the rule "know your target"?
 
The Florida Department Of Law Enforcement is investigating as it does with all officer-involved shootings here. I'm interested to hear their report. It's entirely possible that the sniper had a clear shot and the hostage taker moved just as the trigger was pulled. The shot may have been deflected by a branch, or passing through glass, or hitting a window frame. We won't know anything until the FDLE reports.
 
I hate to straddle the fence here but,

1. If he's supposed to be a sharp shooter, I thought rule number one was to be absolutely sure of your target? I also thought that when shooting through a glass plate or window, that there had to be 2 shots in case the first one missed or was richocheted?

2. I doubt that the report will say that the perp "moved at the last second".

3. NO he should not be charged, but reassigned to a regular patrolman status should be a must. 0% chance of re-instatement to SWAT team.

4. The offeicer should most defianantly be provided with counseling, he WILL have a tough time coming to grips with what could only have been an awfull and tragic mistake.

This is very sad and tragic. There was no harm intended to the victim by anyone on the OPD SWAT team. But I will bet my bottom dollar on one thing;

THE LAWYERS ARE LINING UP AROUND THE BLOCK TO SUE THE CRAP OUTTA THE O.P.D.! :mad:

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[This message has been edited by DOCSpanky (edited July 26, 2000).]
 
How different would this have been if Andrea Hall had been armed and could defend herself and her family? Most likely the perp would be dead and the story never would have made the national news...

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>3. NO he should not be charged, but reassigned to a regular patrolman status should be a must. 0% chance of re-instatement to SWAT team.[/quote]

Well there are few instances were I believe he could be charged (not saying that is the case yet)

1. Fired then looked to see what he was firing at.

2. Fired after being told NOT to.

I am sure there are more...

If it was a case were the perp was holding her and he fired and his her, then... He should be placed on "regular duty".

Please add to this..

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$2,000,000 in exchange for your family and your friend, great deal.....

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