Original Winchester 70 BOSS barrel

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FLChinook

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Does anyone know how much value having an original BOSS barrel would add to a Win model 70 classic super grade? Or would it detract from the value?

And I wonder if the shooters near me at the range would cast disapproving glances in my direction if I were to fire that gun in 300 win mag?? :eek:
 
This is one of those times where it would be entirely up to the buyer. It is like trying to sell a home with a swimming pool. You automatically eliminate over 50% of your potential buyers when selling a gun with a BOSS or a home with a pool. But if you find someone who wants it, the BOSS will add value to the gun just as a pool will add value to a home.

I wouldn't want it, but that is just me.
 
There are a number of recoil reducers made. Do they all produce the same loud noise? How does the BOSS compare with other makes?
 
The only way to reduce recoil without increasing noise is to add a suppressor to your rifles. Any time you port the gasses in any direction other than straight out the end of the muzzle you'll increase the report. Every person I know who had a boss on their rifles either changed the barrels or had them removed and the barrels cut to remove the threads and re-crowned. I'm not against muzzle brakes but I've sold every rifle I've had that had one down the road, there okay for range use but I'd never hunt with one either.
 
hmmm, not everyone. they work and work well. we sold a bunch of them, along with the extra piece without the holes to duplicate the harmonics. it comes in handy when the noise is objectionable. bob
 
There are after market non ported tubes that I used to replace the Boss tube that was on my Winchester and Browning rifles. I ordered them from Browning.
 
I have 2 Browning BOSS rifles... it turns my 338 Win Mag to feel like shooting a 30-06, & my 375 H&H to feel like a .308... I don't really notice the extra noise neither rifle is one I like shooting without hearing protection... I'd actually like to find a rifle with a BOSS in a caliber light enough, that I could actually afford to wring out the BOSS... .270 would seem like a good candidate, just to have some fun experimenting with it
 
FL Chinook....It adds value for me....I had three Model 70's all in 300 win mag..1 featherweight with the BOSS system..and 2 Classics without....The Classics were good accurate rifles..but they weighed more than the featherweight and produced more recoil too....I sold the Classics and kept the FW....
All three of the rifles were loud....The FW with BOSS is probably louder from the side..but for a hunting rifle..it makes no difference....The fact that I am hunting with a lighter rifle with noticeably less recoil is what I like....It's very accurate too....
 
I remember Browning selling that - and selling it hard - not as a muzzle brake but as some sort of accuracy enhancer. Supposedly it allowed you to "tune" the vibrations of your barrel to optimize your barrel's shot to shot consistency. Didn't make a lot of sense to me at the time, but as a muzzle brake, it will do pretty much what all muzzle brakes do.
 
Does anyone know how much value having an original BOSS barrel would add to a Win model 70 classic super grade? Or would it detract from the value?
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See jmr40's response, I think he nailed it. I know people who love it and believe a gun is much better off having it. I also know people who don't like it and would not get a rifle with one unless it were free, and they'd still complain about it.

And I wonder if the shooters near me at the range would cast disapproving glances in my direction if I were to fire that gun in 300 win mag??
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Yes some are going to, I know I have to some people at the public range I go to. The bottom line is there is a reason I take both ear muffs and ear plugs to the range and use them when the recoil shy people show up:D
 
The BOSS, with or without the muzzle brake option is a barrel tuner.

A barrel tuner allows you to adjust the gun to your load, instead of the other way around.

Prior to Browning developing the BOSS system, there were no commercially made tuners, and only benchrest shooters with custom, hand-made rifles utilized barrel tuners.

Using a tuner is light-years ahead of endlessly tinkering with different handloads or factory loads in the hopes that one of them will be compatible with your barrel's harmonics - and give good accuracy.

With a tuner like the BOSS system, you pick your load - and adjust the tuner for dime-sized groups. It's that simple.

As long as the load produces the same velocity shot to shot without much deviation, you can make the gun shoot bug holes with it.

That's what the BOSS does.

The original BOSS systems all had the muzzle-brake, so a lot of shooters who do not know what a tuner is assume that it's just a muzzle-brake.

Nope. - The muzzle-brake is just an option on something that affects accuracy, not recoil. With a different sleeve on the BOSS, the muzzle-brake is gone so you are shooting bug-holes with a quieter, harder-kicking gun.

Personally, I prefer to use the brake - but that's just me.

More than that though, I prefer accuracy and not having to burn up tons of expensive ammo in load-development.

It's like cruise-control, air-conditioning or automatic ice-makers... Folks got by somehow without them for years and years but once you've had it and got yourself spoiled to it - you'll want it thereafter.

The BOSS system is especially useful now that ammo is expensive, and hard to come by.
 
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BALLISTIC OPTIMIZING SHOOTING SYSTEM = B.O.S.S.

B.O.S.S - C.R. = see above + CONVENTIONAL RECOIL.

So, you have the choice of a somewhat louder tuning system with the muzzle brake feature, or a somewhat quieter tuning system without the muzzle brake feature ( hence, the 'conventional recoil' moniker ).

YOU choose the ammo and MAKE THE RIFLE SHOOT IT ACCURATELY. :D
In effect, YOU are the BOSS!!! :)

If you can afford a few boxes of ammo that you want to shoot, then it will take a FEW shots to dial in the accuracy for that load.
It might save you a few dollars at today's prices for ammunition.

I have a Browning BAR Mk II Safari in 7mm Rem.Mag. with the 'BOSS' and I'm glad I have it!
Bought the 'CR' unit for it, too.
Really nice shooter!

Good Luck.
I'd KEEP that bbl. and rifle combo, whatever it is...;)

OLD PIC: CR unit shown installed.
10609BM007_BROWNING_BAR-BOSS_7MM_R_L.jpg
 
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