Organizing Indiana RKBA focus group

txgho1911

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Folks in and close to Indiana who care,
Some people in Indiana would like the f- grade from Brady bunch.
I am some others have noticed how non-existent gun groups of every flavor in Indiana are in Lobbying efforts for even the slightest small fixes in state law.
Another point of order for such a group would be to organize campaign efforts for the candidates of our choice. We have atrocities in Indiana like Lawrence Buell in the state house. Other miscarriages of the Midwest include Evan Bayh, Lugar, Richard, Julia Carson.
I am posting this as an inquiry for feedback.
What would you like to see different about Indiana state law?
Who would you like to support to oust Julia and other opponents?

So far the idea is to collect contact info for as many Indiana gunners as possible.
Set a date in January or February to meet up FTF in Indpls. Bring you 2 or 3 ideas. All research who is running in various races and where they stand. I can't tell what kind of town will be in a few months. Bart seems to be getting his way with more and more things and people. I would like to see specific pre-emption at state level against city or county LE discrimination of Gun owners licensed and carrying as in a escalation to ISP or AG for harassment. Just as an example.

http://thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=171508

Something to consider as GOALS
I guess the best goal I would like to accomplish would be pressure. Some how be a presence the legislators may all realize as a reality. I met my state rep last year in his office and he explained his focus areas. Lawrence Buell told me his concentration would be around business law reform. Well we received a new anti gun law out of that. I understand a whole lot of the reasoning behind Lairds Law but it was passed in the house very easy. I do not like that.
Another area to gain is refinements in current carry law. Like school function and extending licensed carry to schools for those parents that carry. Pickup the kids sometimes means disarming to get out of your car. Extra handling and leaving the handgun in the car. Also is the grandfather clause for city/county gov regulation of Firearms. Given there are not many City laws to pre-empt it still allows for an irregularity across the state. I would not put it past Bart Peterson to lobby for a special exception for Indpls.
So many states have made corrections to methods and perception as Indiana as almost stood still. Somehow Indpls crime is on the rise. So many reasons to loosen some strings or broaden the reach of LTH.
I would like to see Vermont/Alaska carry in Indiana. I know it may never happen. Paper work and the city/county building should not stand in the way of people who want to take responsibility for them.
Last but not least. Who in Indiana wants better than an f from the brady bunch?
 
Another goal should be communication and awareness. I try to stay up on what is going on in Indiana. But see very little.

For example:
Lawrence Buell told me his concentration would be around business law reform. Well we received a new anti gun law out of that. I understand a whole lot of the reasoning behind Lairds Law but it was passed in the house very easy. I do not like that.
Remember hearing about it as an idea, but never heard it came up for a vote or what the final provisions were.
 
This law has allready been utilized

A carmel man living with mom lost his arms by this law. I do not disagree with the reason for this law. I am fully behind the state's requirement that legal carry be by "a proper person". I disagree with the visibility of the legislation and how easily it was passed into law.
 
Making progress

My better half has no clue I am stirin the puddin. I am gonna be in so much trouble!

I need feedback here and there.
http://www.packing.org/community/la...s/listview/6526
http://thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=191849
http://thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=171508
http://community-4.webtv.net/Second...ndmentPatriots/
http://ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=8&f=30&t=218062
http://thearmedcitizen.net/forums/s...32871#post32871

Dates
So many are working through the week. I am shooting for a Sat 1/28 or 2/4. Maybe a 1PM or 7PM meeting time. Please respond in the thread so it doesn't get filtered in my mail.
 
Dates and Places

PDO member Minuteman32 told me he might have a meeting room at the Speedway city hall available.

I went around to the different posted sites and requested more feedback. I understand a process to gather a group of folks together who have no social connection whatsoever to create a lobby and campaign support "club or committee".
I know there are many others who never post on a board who may follow many different events or issues discussed here. I would ask for your participation as well and even if you are not a member of any of these boards please send me a note about your interests in this.

I am assuming right now that any effort from Central Indiana and all other corners should be in full cooperation with The 2nd Amendment Patriots. I have spoken at length with a group founder who may have many years of name recognition and political support already under their belt. From my talks with Jim Tomes, there I see no reason for another focus group like this. I have asked for documentation detailing accomplishments and successes. This group is very loosely unorganized and wishes to stay that way. This allows for:
No dues
No book keeping
No irs reporting of any kind
I do believe discussions and issues can be passed easily enough at the range or via e-mail most of the time.
I still see everyone who is willing to work on lobby and campaign efforts as vital and required. Actually making the calls and standing up in legislative committee meetings and voicing our fears and concerns with urging folks who are on our side to stand for what they believe in or campaigned on. I am asking for serious people willing to work away from the keyboard and without the carry gun.

Ok you lurkers if I have anyone considering this that are not on the board please email me directly.
cmjobrien@comcast.net
 
from my mail

Tomorrow, Wed. the 18th, is the first day to file for political
> office. This includes delegates to the state political conventions. If
> you can get the word out in your e-mails, I think it would be a good
> idea to see how many of us can get elected. This is how we can help get
> control of our political parties.

and from a brizi campaign notice.

The Slating Convention is being held Saturday, January 21st at the Farm Bureau Building at the State Fair Grounds. Volunteers will be asked to arrive at 9:30 am. Precinct Committeemen are permitted to participate as volunteers as well. If you are not a precinct committeeman, this is a great opportunity to watch as our 2006 Republican candidates are slated.

Please RSVP to Megan Robertson at mrobertson@indgop.org or 317-417-4393.

Looks like a face to face will follow a Utah CHL class at the Eagle Creek range.
Sat 2/4/06
No earlier than 2:30 so the class is not disturbed.
Bring handguns and ammo if you are legal to do so. We might be able to hit the range for a few while we are waiting on the class to finish if it's not done by 2PM.

I am going to the Evansville area to attend a regular meeting for the 2nd Amendment Patriots. I am going to carry every thread we have about organizing printed with me. I expect to collect as much about the group as I can. There is no reason we cannot just join the current distribution and add our own individual efforts to current issues.

On-line renewal is finding resistance in the IN house and senate. In the senate the ISP wants $375,000 to start this and maintain it. This is a very ugly insult to everyone aware of the states office of technology and those who have accessed any on-line licensing process through Access Indiana. In the house a committeeman or chair replaced wording with his own to stipulate federal dollars to pay for it. The ISP was ecstatic and the NRA approved. As if they spoke to anyone in Indiana that wants the fed in even deeper.

Even if you cannot make it on Saturday everyone on the board should be doing something to further our rights restoration. Call Write or even showing up in a reps office to state your concerns. Indiana gun owners may well have a case of apathy in to many areas. To many reasons why we don't have an F- on the brady grade or have similar cary laws to Alaska or lifetime liscensure.
 
Southern Indiana

As I am in southern Indiana this meeting date will not include me but I would like to see this effort continue in many ways to fix some of the laws affecting myself and others in the state. So count me in to be involve in any way that I can.

Wayne
 
Indiana RKBA

Looks like a face to face will follow a Utah CHL class at the Eagle Creek range.
Sat 2/4/06
No earlier than 2:30 so the class is not disturbed.
Bring handguns and ammo if you are legal to do so. We might be able to hit the range for a few while we are waiting on the class to finish if it's not done by 2PM.

I am going to the Evansville area to attend a regular meeting for the 2nd Amendment Patriots. I am going to carry every thread we have about organizing printed with me. I expect to collect as much about the group as I can. There is no reason we cannot just join the current distribution and add our own individual efforts to current issues.

On-line renewal is finding resistance in the IN house and senate. In the senate the ISP wants $375,000 to start this and maintain it. This is a very ugly insult to everyone aware of the states office of technology and those who have accessed any on-line licensing process through Access Indiana. In the house a committeeman or chair replaced wording with his own to stipulate federal dollars to pay for it. The ISP was ecstatic and the NRA approved. As if they spoke to anyone in Indiana that wants the fed in even deeper.

Even if you cannot make it on Saturday everyone on the board should be doing something to further our rights restoration. Call Write or even showing up in a reps office to state your concerns. Indiana gun owners may well have a case of apathy in to many areas. To many reasons why we don't have an F- on the brady grade or have similar cary laws to Alaska or lifetime liscensure.

Also:
For a FTF meet so far it's for 2\4\06 at the Eagle Creek range in a classroom 230 or 3 after a UT ccw class. Lunch will not be served. A few of us have decided to meet at Ponderosa on 38th st about 12. We have started a count of participants @ http://thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=171354&page=2
Show up if you can. Might have some open range time available at the range. IPD and MCSD use this range and classroom facility for training.
Located on the NE corner of W56th and I465 North of the High school rd light. N High School rd ends at N56th and there is a dog park there as well.
http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.ad...OpmZnegzV5aB2MvVqGqCiBpwjoaI2E0c6nIIWAk/bGg==
I will be taking notes and every sugjestion included in the many threads on this subject.
Everyone please bring any questions and sugjestions.

Some of the other threads on this subject.
http://www.packing.org/community/general/thread/?thread=6526
http://www.packing.org/community/general/thread/?thread=6971
http://www.packing.org/community/general/thread/?thread=7176
http://www.packing.org/community/general/thread/?thread=7608
Packing threads age regardless of posting date time.
http://thearmedcitizen.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=32871#post32871
http://ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=8&f=30&t=218062
http://thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=171508
http://thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=171354
http://thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=191849

Please send me an address
I would like to make an email distribution list soley for the purpose of spreading news and updates on Indiana RKBA issues. Please send me a PM or email with good working email addresses if you are wiling to participate or the issues communicated can sway you into action.
 
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