Oregon Integrated Conceal Carry Law
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carguychris
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Do you have a link to the text?
Mike Irwin
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Any legitimate family physician who signs on for that is putting themselves in a potential for a world of hurt on both sides of the issue.
First and foremost is the issue of their having standing to judge mental competency in the first place.
Most physicians I know won't even prescribe anti-depressant drugs without a consulting opinion from a pyschologist or a psychiatrist because of the potential issues involved.
First and foremost is the issue of their having standing to judge mental competency in the first place.
Most physicians I know won't even prescribe anti-depressant drugs without a consulting opinion from a pyschologist or a psychiatrist because of the potential issues involved.
Theohazard
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This. My wife is an MD and she often makes it clear to me that she's not professionally or ethically qualified to make medical decisions in areas of medicine outside her specialty. I can't imagine there are many doctors outside the fields of psychology and psychiatry who would be willing to perform an official mental screening. That's simply not their area of expertise.Mike Irwin said:
Mike Irwin
Staff
The way I interpreted it is that it requires the individual's physician (regular physician? doc in the box? Don't know) to issue an opinion on the applicant's competency.
That's not something that a family physician can do, and what even trained psychiatric professionals may not be able to do in one meeting.
That's not something that a family physician can do, and what even trained psychiatric professionals may not be able to do in one meeting.
2ndsojourn
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From militant:
"Is there a standing issue with crazed conceal carry holders murdering people?"
Probably not that anyone's aware of. It's an answer to a problem that doesn't exist. But if it becomes a law, watch out. No physician in their right mind is going to offer any opinion on someone's mental competency in order to obtain a carry permit. No sign-off, no permit.
"Is there a standing issue with crazed conceal carry holders murdering people?"
Probably not that anyone's aware of. It's an answer to a problem that doesn't exist. But if it becomes a law, watch out. No physician in their right mind is going to offer any opinion on someone's mental competency in order to obtain a carry permit. No sign-off, no permit.
[QUOTE But if it becomes a law, watch out. No physician in their right mind is going to offer any opinion on someone's mental competency in order to obtain a carry permit. No sign-off, no permit.][/QUOTE]
Oh--there will be doctors that will attest to your competence. The same
bunch that write scrips for oxycodone from a telephone consult, and hand
out medical marijuana cards to anybody with a "pain" and money.
Oh--there will be doctors that will attest to your competence. The same
bunch that write scrips for oxycodone from a telephone consult, and hand
out medical marijuana cards to anybody with a "pain" and money.
Such a bill, if passed, is another stepping stone for gun control. IMO their long term tactics are as follows.
1) Initially a subjective evaluation from a physician would be required to green stamp CCW approval.
2) Then it very well may progress in the future to the next step where the CCW carrier would be required to have a full psychiatric exam to be green stamped for approval.
3) Possibly it could morph into a scenario where one would have to face a panel consisting of for example a LEO, Psychiatrist, Family Medical Doctor, MDA member (mom's demand action) where anyone of these people could deny you a CCW permit.
The agenda of such a law is to force a selective "may issue" CCW all behind a medical mask.
1) Initially a subjective evaluation from a physician would be required to green stamp CCW approval.
2) Then it very well may progress in the future to the next step where the CCW carrier would be required to have a full psychiatric exam to be green stamped for approval.
3) Possibly it could morph into a scenario where one would have to face a panel consisting of for example a LEO, Psychiatrist, Family Medical Doctor, MDA member (mom's demand action) where anyone of these people could deny you a CCW permit.
The agenda of such a law is to force a selective "may issue" CCW all behind a medical mask.
Glenn E. Meyer
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See if the relevant medical associations comment on this. Betcha -you don't see a wave of support.
The provision cited is scientifically and practically ridiculous.
The provision cited is scientifically and practically ridiculous.