Oregon Background Check Petition

Oatka

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Let's hope time runs out.
http://www.oregonlive.com/oped/index.ssf?/oped/00/04/ed042407.frame

Sign on to gun-check initiative

Backers of a long-overdue change in gun law have only a short time to gather signatures to bring the issue to a vote

Monday, April 24, 2000

Citizens ought to look at the background-check initiative beginning to make the rounds in Oregon as an opportunity to engage in self-defense.

No one else seems to have the courage to close the gun-show loophole that allows convicted criminals, mentally ill people, juveniles and anyone else to buy weapons at gun shows.

Not Congress, which has caved to the National Rifle Association and failed to pass even modest gun restrictions.

Not the Oregon Legislature, where a background-check bill failed by a single vote last year.

And certainly not gun-sellers themselves, who have heaped scorn on Smith & Wesson for agreeing with the government to require background checks on all sales of their guns.

Instead, Oregonians must act to protect themselves by closing the gun-show loophole.

It would be a small but important change in the law. As it stands, the licensed firearms dealers that gather at places such as the Rose City Gun Shows in Portland must run background checks on all buyers. Generally, the instant checks done by the Oregon State Police take only a few minutes.

However, the dozens of unlicensed gun sellers who take part in the gun shows -- euphemistically called "collectors" -- aren't required to conduct background checks. Anybody can buy guns from these people.

And anybody does. Portland police have documented cases of known gang members and other criminals shopping for guns at the Rose City Gun Shows, and looking for those dealers who don't have to do "the paperwork."

This loophole in the law must be tightly closed. Doing so won't infringe on the rights of law-abiding gun owners. It won't limit access to guns from legitimate, legal buyers -- hunters, target shooters, weapons collectors, people wanting handguns for self-defense.

We urge people to sign the petitions being circulated by the Stop Gun Violence Campaign, an all-volunteer effort led by state Sen. Ginny Burdick, D-Portland, and sheriffs Dan Noelle of Multnomah County and Robert Kennedy of Jackson County. The group must gather at least 67,000 signatures of registered Oregon voters by July 7.

That's not much time. Thirty legislative candidates have made pledges to help gather signatures. And Portland City Commissioner Jim Francesconi has taken the unusual and commendable step of sending out 70,000 petitions for the measure with his re-election campaign mailer.

When you get the opportunity, sign a petition for the Stop Gun Violence Campaign.

Look at it as self-defense.

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They make the mistake of asking "Agree or disagee? Let us know how you feel about today's Op/Ed in the Oregon Forum."
http://www.oregonlive.com/forums/oregon/




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The New World Order has a Third Reich odor.
 
Ahh yes, Portland, that ultra-liberal bastion of an ultra-liberal state. The polly-tishuns there make Ted Kennedy look like Pat Robertson.

Thanks Kali, for sending half your population up north. We had it pretty good in Oregon, long ago...
 
The real problem with this petition is not that everyone has to have a background check done at a gun show. Reality check, it will be the law of the land soon. We should start getting use to it. The problem with this petition is that it also orders State government to hold these records for 5 years. And that sounds like registration to me.

Robert
 
I can't resist needling these idiots. here's what I posted on their forum:

"Sign on to gun-check initiative -- the Big Lie OpEd

“No one else seems to have the courage to close the gun-show loophole that allows convicted criminals, mentally ill people, juveniles and anyone else to buy weapons at gun shows.”

The editors lie. I don’t mean the childish crossed-fingers-behind-the-back lie. I don’t mean the CYA “Yes, honey, I remember our anniversary” lie. I mean the Bill Clinton lie. The fuzzy, deceitful, “depends on what is is" lie. It sneaks about on cats feet, waiting to pounce on those gullible intellects that still believe everything they read in the newspapers and see on TV.

This lie has been disproved so many times, that to repeat it is not merely slovenly journalism, it is a candidate for the Josef Goebbels Excellence in Propaganda Award.

Gun shows are mainly extensions of licensed gun dealers’ stores. Buy from them at a gun show and you MUST pass an FBI instant background check. Over 95% of gun show sellers are these dealers.

The so-called “loophole” refers to the 5% or less citizens who occasionally sell a gun. Sell too many or too often and you become a target of the BATF as an unlicensed dealer, with attendant heavy fines, and perhaps jail.

The editors decry all those sales at the Rose City gun show, and quote “. . . Portland police have documented cases of known gang members and other criminals shopping for guns . . .”.

If that is actually the case, one has to ask, why are all these documented “known gang members and other criminals” still running around loose? Enforce existing laws? How droll!

Since the FBI is illegally keeping records of anyone they check, they are in effect registering firearms. THAT is the real loophole to the anti-gun people. A private sale between two citizens is not entered into the Federal databanks – an anathema to them.

It is interesting to note that the editors lump “. . . and anyone else . . .” into the list of people who are already forbidden by law to buy a firearm. A Freudian slip, no doubt.

These worthies also fail to mention that the petition allows the State to keep records on gun buyers for five years. Why? If you passed the background check, why is the State interested in your ownership of firearms? Again, more backdoor registration, with the eventual goal of confiscating ALL firearms (you can’t grab 'em if you don’t know where they are).

And they call this neo-Nazi approach “self-defense”! Distilled Clintonism.

To paraphrase their next-to-last sentence,
“When you get the opportunity, DON’T sign a petition for the Stop Gun Violence Campaign.” It will not stop the use of guns by violent people but it WILL set up a dandy “enemies of the State” list for some future Fuhrer."

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