One thing gun makers should do

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wacki

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Is make a gun with an all titanium reciever. That would have the strength of steel (or an 870) with the weight of aluminum. So far the only thing that comes close is this:

http://www.fieldandstream.com/fieldstream/shooting/shotguns/article/0,13199,1158613,00.html

Why they decided to do the skeleton of titanium wrapped with carbon fiber i don't know. Sure it will shave off some weight but it's one more thing to fail/fall off. Titanium is already light enough.
 
Titanium is expensive stuff. (Because it isn't reduced the same way from ore as aluminum or steel)

So, for pumps, which are price sensitive, it's a non-starter as what advantage does it bring to the table? If you want light weight, aluminum is lighter...Ithaca 37 Ultralight, for example.

For autos I can see a small market there...a prestige factor. But probably not big enough to justify tooling costs.
 
You don't need the strength of titanium for a shotgun receiver (the bolt locks into the barrel), and you wouldn't want the cost of titanium anyway. Imagine how many of the "New 870 Titanium " they would sell if the price tag was $700-$800. If you think they could sell them, go ask any gun store owner how many 870 Express shotguns get sold for each 870 Wingmaster ($100 difference). Now imagine 3 times the cost.
 
If you think they could sell them, go ask any gun store owner how many 870 Express shotguns get sold for each 870 Wingmaster ($100 difference). Now imagine 3 times the cost.
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Meh, I don't really think this is a valid argument because the wingmaster is just a shiny version of the express. And in my opinion that is a BAD thing. I would actually pay more money for the express than the wingmaster. And if I bought a wingmaster I would likely dull it up to look like the express.

Titanium is much lighter, stronger, and is impervious to weather. Those are pretty big advantages.
 
Why not titanium

Because titanium sucks to machine, is expensive, and is an unneeded change to a good design.
 
Titanium may solve one problem....but creates another.

While a Titanium gun has appeal, the lighter weight results in more felt recoil and a harder kicking gun. Gun manufacturers learned a long time ago heavier guns reduce felt recoil, buying public insists having recoil pads on their shotguns. Gunmakers have tried to tame this with inertia recoil and gas operating systems. This becomes more of an issue with the use of steel shot, longer shells, and greater powder charges.
 
If you don't have the strength or the ability to carry a 870, you should do one of 2 things,, start working out and get some muscle,, or take up golf and give up hunting. No matter what the gun manufacturers do to accomadate the wimps,, they still bitch. Go find another sport,, like checkers
 
If you don't have the strength or the ability to carry a 870, you should do one of 2 things,, start working out and get some muscle,, or take up golf and give up hunting. No matter what the gun manufacturers do to accomadate the wimps,, they still bitch. Go find another sport,, like checkers
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The lighter the gun is the more ammo one can carry. :)
 
I have a Taurus Titanium TI .38 special snub nose with a deep blue stained or I guess it's called anodized finish. Recoil is a little hard but nothing a strong grip can't take. Rubber grips and five rounds make it a good little backup revolver. Would upload photos if I had a decent computer.:cool:
 
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