One of the good guys

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fat old gun nut

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About a month ago I rode with my 2 bro-in-laws to Tenn. mountains from North Fla. As we exited Cherokee, N.C. (who was hosting a bike rally) the sheriff and highway patrol had a road block checking licenses and for DUI. The trooper asked for my license which I produced. Under my license was my CCP and I brought it to the trooper's attention by saying "That is my carry permit and I have one on my person"

The trooper responded" You're one of the good guys" and immedeatly handed me back my license.

I thought that was cool.
 
You got lucky. In Chicago, a friend of mine had a run in with the police there. The police broke into his house without a warrant. They confisicated all of his firearms which he had all legally registered. They even took his FOID card. Then they charged him for having unregistered firearms and no FOID. Luckily for him he hired James Valentino (Illinois Rifle Association President). My friend had copies of all the registrations and a copy of his FOID card. He went to court and got everything back. Total cost for retrieving something he legally owned was $500 18 years ago.
 
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Fat Old Gun Nut: that is cool. I would hope to be treated the same by LEO's here in Arkansas. MOST people who take the time, effort, and spend the $$ to become a concealed carry license holder ARE the good guys.
 
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Personally, I would not volunteer any information. If asked, I would be truthful but have no desire to tell anyone anything without cause.

Years ago, while riding my motorcycle, I was hit by a hit and run driver that ran a red light. The investigating officer visited me in the hospital to return my gun which was in my belly bag when I was hit. He complimented me on how clean the gun was, even asking if it had ever been fired. He never asked if I had a permit or any other gun related questions. My guess was he had all the answers by the time he came to see me.
 
Uzi4u2...... I've read some of your posts and based on your comments you have some kind of serious problem with law enforcement. Either that, or you have a very overactive imagination.
 
"good guys"

A few times you can run across a sworn LE with some sense, ;).
I've had 2 DWI check-point events that went down like that.
One was while I was in uniform and a veteran cop said; "See ya later!". Another was while I drove from PA to FL. I had my late mother's 1997 GM sedan with a dealer transport tag and a &@€% of stuff in the car.
I also had my loaded Ruger GPNY(.38spl). A few cops in Winchester VA were doing a summer DWI check-point and were very smooth.
As a former MP, I can tell you with many sworn LEOs, if you are calm, polite and respectful you can get better treatment than if you are mean, combative or irrate.
Not all US law enforcement agencies train or supervise new members in the proper methods but sometimes you can have troopers/PDs or deputies who aren't a-holes or who hide behind their badges.

Clyde
 
I thought there were nine good cops left? :(

They must've retired. I noticed that every time a cop was nice to me, he was an older gentleman. I think they send the young cops to unctrolled pit bull school :D
 
Ohio is kind of funny on the subject. The State Patrol has been great over two encounters with them. A run in with the local police was a different story. I was pulled over for a "safety check" in my truck because it looked like I might have an insecure load. The guy was pretty disappointed when he couldn't pull the couch I had tied in the back out of the bed, even though I used plain old fashion hemp rope instead of fancy tie downs. The knot tying merit badge in Boy Scouts paid off, I guess.

When I told him that I had a permit and there was a gun in the glove box, he replied with "Why do you need that?" I told him that I hope I didn't. The answer was something about how in his town, the police handle protection. He did not appreciate my request to escort me to the nearest gas station and then a fast food joint for lunch to make sure that I wasn't mugged on the way.
 
Unfortunately, the kind of situation described by uzi4U2 is not unknown, especially in cities where the administration is both totalitarian and anti-gun (the two usually go hand-in-hand). In those areas, police feel free to treat the public with contempt and hatred because they know the politicians will provide cover for them and the corrupt courts will always accept their word.

One of the good/bad developments of recent years has been the ubiquitous cellphone/camera. Where in the past it was the officer's word against anyone else's, now there is often irrefutable proof of police abuse, and it will be shown on TV for the world to see, not laughed about at the station.

Good cops should not fear having their actions recorded, though some people do equate any effort at restraint with "police brutality", but bad cops need to know they no longer have an unlimited "right" to use undue force or "express themselves" by beating and killing citizens.

Jim
 
Here in NC, the LEOs are usually pretty cool about it, as long as you declare, dome lights on, hands on wheel, etc. Cops down here, 50/50 chance they'll wind up shootin' the bull about guns with you for a few minutes.

Got stopped once, 'n told the officer I had a loaded weapon laying on my passenger seat (pre-CWP). His response? "I see yer a wheelgun guy. Cool. Reason I stopped ya was...".
 
This one isn't gun related but involves DUI checkpoint.

I worked second shift at Gallo winery for about a year. One night about 30 minutes before the end of shift while replacing a sensor a fill valve stuck and one of the large bags for restaurant use exploded pretty much soaking my left leg from mid thigh down. I squished when I walked. Got off work at midnight and headed home. I came around a curve and there were flashers everywhere. I slow down and pull up to the LEO.

"Never been through one of these before. What do I need to have?"

He leans down kind of into the window and tells me just your drivers license.
He asks "Have you had anything to drink tonight?" I notice him kind of sniffing.

So I ask "Do you smell wine? Because if you do it is from work. I explained what had happened. I even offered to get out and wring my sock out for him.
He kind of laughed and said it wouldn't be necessary.

I'm pretty sure between the EJG on my shirt and lunch bag on the passenger seat he believed me.
 
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