I have decided to buy one more rifle before the election (or shortly after). I am looking for one that I will not be allowed to by in the future. SAR-8 or a Bushmaster. I like the AR-15 but you can't beat a .308 (could always go with a AR-10) So what do you think? What one rifle would you get if you could only buy one more rifle like this.
One more rifle............What?
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The Plainsman
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AR-15. Lots of ammo; lots of parts available; easy to shoot; cheap to shoot; it'll do anything the big bores will do within practical range; if push comes to shove, you'll be using the same basic gun and ammo as the "other side". 
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If "the people" in the 1st, 4th, 9th & 10th amendments, means "the people", why do some folks think "the people" in the 2nd amendment means "the state"?
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If "the people" in the 1st, 4th, 9th & 10th amendments, means "the people", why do some folks think "the people" in the 2nd amendment means "the state"?
Get guns that fire military calibers like the .223, the .308 (in the
US; in Switzerland, we'd use 7.5x55mm), and 9mm. Maybe shotguns might
prove useful (a normal class 4 vest used by the police here is NOT
sufficient to avoid getting knocked out or killed by a shotgun slug).
Get lots of ammo.
And, no, it's not a patriotic duty to buy an AR-15. It's a duty to
HAVE one, at least for you. Here, it's SIG all the way down.
However, I don't like the AR-15 too much, I prefer a SIG 550, or a
Steyr AUG.
US; in Switzerland, we'd use 7.5x55mm), and 9mm. Maybe shotguns might
prove useful (a normal class 4 vest used by the police here is NOT
sufficient to avoid getting knocked out or killed by a shotgun slug).
Get lots of ammo.
And, no, it's not a patriotic duty to buy an AR-15. It's a duty to
HAVE one, at least for you. Here, it's SIG all the way down.
However, I don't like the AR-15 too much, I prefer a SIG 550, or a
Steyr AUG.
Jeff Thomas
New member
Well, you might consider some AK variant if you don't have one of those. The mag's are still reasonable, the rifle will nearly always function, the round is capable, and of course ... it is so 'un-PC'.
Like most of these conversations, the first step is to decide the intended use. Choosing from the pool of what might be banned is, sadly, probably not helpful in focusing your selection.
Good luck with your decision. Regards from AZ
Like most of these conversations, the first step is to decide the intended use. Choosing from the pool of what might be banned is, sadly, probably not helpful in focusing your selection.
Good luck with your decision. Regards from AZ
Arizona Fusilier
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Another vote for the AR-15 in .223.
IMO it is everyone Constitutional Duty to have as close as possible the same small arms as the standing military.
That would mean with regard to NATO
A .223 Semi-Auto (AR, AUG, etc)
A bolt .308 (Rem, Steyr, AI)
A 9 minimum (Beretta, Browning)
As long as the arm is an issue item with one of the NATO forces parts will be available. But the biggest factor is that everone must have arms capable of shooting Military Calibers. I've left off WARSAW Pact arms casue we reside in a NATO Country... these same but opposite would apply to them.
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Schmit
GySgt, USMC(Ret)
NRA Life, Lodge 1201-UOSSS
"Si vis Pacem Para Bellum"
That would mean with regard to NATO
A .223 Semi-Auto (AR, AUG, etc)
A bolt .308 (Rem, Steyr, AI)
A 9 minimum (Beretta, Browning)
As long as the arm is an issue item with one of the NATO forces parts will be available. But the biggest factor is that everone must have arms capable of shooting Military Calibers. I've left off WARSAW Pact arms casue we reside in a NATO Country... these same but opposite would apply to them.
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Schmit
GySgt, USMC(Ret)
NRA Life, Lodge 1201-UOSSS
"Si vis Pacem Para Bellum"
Schmit. You have it right. According to the Militia Act of 1792 which stated what militia members must have, and reaffirmed by The Senate in 1982. I quote:
U.S. Senate Subcommittee Report (1982) "In the Militia Act of 1792, The second Congress defined 'militia of the United states' to include almost every free adult male in the United states. THESE PERSONS WERE OBLIGATED BY LAW TO POSSESS A [MILITARY-STYLE] FIREARM AND A MINIMUM SUPPLY OF AMMUNITION AND MILITARY EQUIPMENT...(emphasis mine)There can be little doubt from this that when the Congress and the people spoke of the a "militia,' they had reference to the traditional concept of the ENTIRE POPULACE (emphasis mine) capable of bearing arms, and not to any formal group such as what is today called the National Guard."
Now if I interpret this correctly, why is it illegal for us to own an M-16? Why are laws such as NFA 34, GCA 68, etc allowed to stand?
I better stop or my BP will soar off the scale again. That p!$$e$ my doctor off.
Paul B.
U.S. Senate Subcommittee Report (1982) "In the Militia Act of 1792, The second Congress defined 'militia of the United states' to include almost every free adult male in the United states. THESE PERSONS WERE OBLIGATED BY LAW TO POSSESS A [MILITARY-STYLE] FIREARM AND A MINIMUM SUPPLY OF AMMUNITION AND MILITARY EQUIPMENT...(emphasis mine)There can be little doubt from this that when the Congress and the people spoke of the a "militia,' they had reference to the traditional concept of the ENTIRE POPULACE (emphasis mine) capable of bearing arms, and not to any formal group such as what is today called the National Guard."
Now if I interpret this correctly, why is it illegal for us to own an M-16? Why are laws such as NFA 34, GCA 68, etc allowed to stand?
I better stop or my BP will soar off the scale again. That p!$$e$ my doctor off.
Paul B.
stormrifle
Inactive
I'm really lusting after that Robinson Armament .223 rifle! Saw a video someone posted of one of these babies in full-auto action. I gotta get one!
sleeping dog
New member
Schmit,
I thought I had my "constitutional duty" kit covered with the '03 Springfield, the M1 Garand, and the clone of a 1911-A1.
Now I have to update my accessories.
Thanks for the shopping list
I thought I had my "constitutional duty" kit covered with the '03 Springfield, the M1 Garand, and the clone of a 1911-A1.
Now I have to update my accessories.
Thanks for the shopping list
hksigwalther
New member
The potential of Gore-man winning is the reason I've been buying stuff for the past year like there's no tomorrow. Got an FAL last month.
Still thinking over the Robinson and another 91 (or clone) and another FAL.
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- Ron V.
Still thinking over the Robinson and another 91 (or clone) and another FAL.
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- Ron V.