I came across a saeco bottom feed, ¾ full of soft lead for $5, plugged it in and it melts lead. It looks like a model 24 10lbs unit, with a thermostat that goes to 900. I have a lee 450-200-1r conical mold from cabela's on order, currently listed as shipped for in store pick up. A fellow shooter gave me 20lbs of roof lead which should be soft. Now I need a face visor from harbor freight for $4 and an old spoon, maybe a baking pan, gloves I have. The dec sale pietta needed to have the frame filed and ground for clearance to fit a conical. I will be doing my casting outside on my deck, I could be casting next week if the weather cooperates.