Old Remington I Think?

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redneckerson38

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I have a Remington in 30-06, well it's actually labled springfield 1906 and then Remington express 8149, about half way down the barrel it says "Remington arms company inc. succesor to the remington arms umc company inc. remington Ilion NY. USA
Anyone have an idea how old this may be, and what model?

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Remington

I think that you have a "Model 30 Remington" which was a civilianized verion of the 1917 U.S. Enfield with the rear battle sight milled off the action. I believed the Model 30 was made in the early 1920's using the tooling and surplus parts Remington had left over from the "Great War". Let me know if I am wrong. The bolt handle is big clue to the rifle model.

J.Budd
 
That's definitely what it is.

The shape of the bolt handle is a dead giveaway.

These were decent rifles and sold fairly well for Remington for a number of years.

Interesting thing is that they have the clip loading slots for loading with stripper clips.

If your gun has the "cock on closing" type action, it was made between 1921 and about 1932. After that, the action was redesigned so that it was cock on opening.
 
The bolt is kind of interesting, given that it has a claw-type extractor.

It's one of only a couple of models (798 being another example) that Remington ever marketed with a controlled feed.
 
Well, it was built straight off the military design, which was a modified Mauser. At least some of the actions and barrels and many of the smaller parts had been produced originally under contract for World War I.

When those contracts were cancelled when the war ended, Remington was left with tons of stock that the government now didn't want.
 
Thanks all for the replies, that's a lot of good info that I was wondering about.
quoted by Mike Irwin "If your gun has the "cock on closing" type action, it was made between 1921 and about 1932. After that, the action was redesigned so that it was cock on opening."
How do I determine whether is cocks on open or close?

thanks
Red
 
Easy to determine if it cocks on opening.

Cycle the bolt to make sure the gun is unloaded.

Pull the trigger to drop the firing pin.

Then, lift up on the bolt handle fully and push it back down WITHOUT retracting the bolt.

Pull the trigger. If the firing pin drops, your gun is one of the later ones with the redesigned action.

A close on cocking bolt opens easily with little or no resistance lifting the bolt handle. Then, as you close the bolt, it will "catch" with about an inch or so left before it is fully home and the handle can be turned down.

That 'catch' is the firing pin mechanism engaging the trigger sear (I think I have my terminology correct). As you push the bolt home and turn the bolt handle down, you're actually cocking the firing pin back against the firing pin spring.
 
Thanks Mike,
that explained it perfectly. After I pull the trigger, and as i lift up the bolt handle it cocks the hammer or the firing pin(you can see it in the pics, whatever it is called).

after pulling trigger:
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after lifting the bolt handle(you can see where it extends out the back of the bolt):


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I found this googling model 30 express, does it sound correct? and if so, mine just says springfield 1906 on the left(opposite side of bolt handle), but on the right (same side as bolt handle) it say R.E.P on the barrel right in front of the reciever, which would make it November of 36
can anyone confirm this?
Thanks
Red

From google:

On the left side of the barrel right in front of the receiver, you'll see two letters. Often, more than two and maybe some numbers, but always at least two letters.

Remington's date codes were set up as the word "blackpowder X" representing the month of manufacture, with the second letter being the year.

B=January
L=February
A=March
C=April
K=May
P=June
O=July
W=August
D=September
E=October
R=November
X=December

The second letter represents the year of manufacture.

M=1921
N=1922
P=1923
R=1924
S=1925
T=1926
U=1927
W=1928
X=1929
Y=1930
Z=1931
A=1932
B=1933
C=1934
D=1935
E=1936
F=1937
G=1938
H=1939
J=1940
K=1941
L=1942
MM=1943
NN=1944
PP=1945
RR=1946
SS=1947
TT=1948

Your Model 30 Express was made between 1926 and 1940 so I'm not going to type out the entire code. If it's June, 1933 as JD says (and the books are often wrong....you need to check your own date code to be sure), it will be coded "PB" on the left side of the barrel.
 
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