Just had a look at a Sharps my friend purchased. I understand it's an East Coast production. Just lovely. He's into the ritual; the reloading, the casting, etc. From a show; and I doubt it was fired more than a dozen times. Pristine , and $1,200. Not exactly sure what he meant by East Coast, as I'm not too familiar with the manufacturing.
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Oliver Sudden
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Shiloh Sharps were first made in Farmingdale New York. Then moved to Big Timber Montana in 1983 and are still there. He has a first rate rifle at a bargain price.
JT-AR-MG42
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I believe your pal was making reference to the Old Reliable Sharps made in
Farmingdale N.Y. before the move of manufacture to Montana
where the company was subsequently sold and re-named Shiloh Sharps.
The Old Reliable name and trademark that the Famingdale Sharps used
were acquired from the earlier Sharps Rifle company out of Arcadia CA, of which Harry Sanford (Auto mag fame) was part of.
Here's a couple of pics of one.
The guns were made in only two calibers.
45-120, like this one and 50-140. Barrels also carried the Old Reliable name.
Fit and finish of the Arcadia guns was below that of the Farmingdales.
New tooling, and the change to the 'new' design two piece firing pin, helped the Shilohs to have a better reputation yet.
JT
Farmingdale N.Y. before the move of manufacture to Montana
where the company was subsequently sold and re-named Shiloh Sharps.
The Old Reliable name and trademark that the Famingdale Sharps used
were acquired from the earlier Sharps Rifle company out of Arcadia CA, of which Harry Sanford (Auto mag fame) was part of.
Here's a couple of pics of one.
The guns were made in only two calibers.
45-120, like this one and 50-140. Barrels also carried the Old Reliable name.
Fit and finish of the Arcadia guns was below that of the Farmingdales.
New tooling, and the change to the 'new' design two piece firing pin, helped the Shilohs to have a better reputation yet.
JT
Oliver Sudden
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Drovel Tool first made the Shiloh Sharps under the name of Shiloh Products, Inc. in Farmingdale New York. Later the name was changed to Shiloh Rifle Co. In 1983 the company moved to Big Timber Montana were Shiloh and C. Sharps (the distributor) shared the same building. Shiloh continued to be owned and operated by Wolfgang Droege until sold to the Bryants at a later date. This photo is of an early Shiloh Products Sharps made in Farmingdale. It was given to me directly by Wolfgang while I was working with him in 1979 in New York.
IMG_0260 by Oliver Sudden, on Flickr
I wasn't aware of the Arcadia Sharps before now. The Old Reliable stamp was on some of the Shiloh barrels until C. Sharps Arms copyrighted the Old Reliable marking in the mid 1980's.
IMG_0260 by Oliver Sudden, on FlickrI wasn't aware of the Arcadia Sharps before now. The Old Reliable stamp was on some of the Shiloh barrels until C. Sharps Arms copyrighted the Old Reliable marking in the mid 1980's.
Oliver Sudden
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The type of gun, but the movie used the 45/110 or more properly the 45 x 2 7/8" cartridge.
Jim Watson
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Quigley's rifle was stated to be a .45x 2 7/8" aka .45-110.
The .45x 3 1/4" aka .45-120 is to my understanding, a scarce rechamber after Sharps Rifle Co. folded. But it has a high P factor for the modern fantasist.
The .45x 3 1/4" aka .45-120 is to my understanding, a scarce rechamber after Sharps Rifle Co. folded. But it has a high P factor for the modern fantasist.
Not a whole lot of performance difference between the .45-110 and the .45-120 except for length of cartridge. I procured a Rem #1 Rolling Block in .45-70 with a burst barrel in the 90's and rebarreled it to .45-120 (just greedy I guess). I wish I had just done it in .45-110 as that .45-120 cartridge is 3-1/4" long at the case and was a pain to reload on .45-70 RCBS dies, and I had to be careful to chamber that long round. It shot my reloaded .45-110 cartridges (new 3-1/4" brass cut down to length) just fine. I used smokeless reloads using 4895 powder.
It probably would have done OK with .45-90, even with a ton of free bore, but I never tried it. .45-70 rounds did not do well at all.
Jim
It probably would have done OK with .45-90, even with a ton of free bore, but I never tried it. .45-70 rounds did not do well at all.
Jim