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http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-brief...pes-to-enact-new-gun-control-measures-in-2013

President Obama on Sunday said he would make gun control a priority in his new term, pledging to put his “full weight” behind passing new restrictions on firearms in 2013.

“I'm going to be putting forward a package and I'm going to be putting my full weight behind it,” Obama said in an interview aired on NBC’s “Meet the Press.” “I'm going to be making an argument to the American people about why this is important and why we have to do everything we can to make sure that something like what happened at Sandy Hook Elementary does not happen again.”

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Well TFL friends we all knew he was going to do this no matter what shooting situation was picked. This is a call to arms....Join the NRA as a life member, call your representatives, write your representatives. Do something today as this is an all out assault on the 2nd amendment. Confiscation is down the road for our children and grandchildren if not for us.

How do you feel?
 
This was sent to me by a friend and I didn't write this, but for the most part, I agree with what is in it.

Americans Won’t Give Up Their Guns, Law Or Not! … J. D. LongstreetAmericans Won’t Give Up Their Guns, Law Or Not!
A Commentary by J. D. Longstreet
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Ordinarily, I’d agree that THIS is no time to be arguing gun control. With the pain still intense in Connecticut , there should have been a truce declared, to allow for grieving. But the plain truth is, those who declare that a good crisis must not be wasted, jumped the gun (as they usually do) and began a nationwide PR war through the national Mainstream Media to bring as much pressure to bear as they possible could on our government for laws to ban certain guns, eventually ALL guns in the hands of US civilians.

To those on the political and those pushing gun control — in the childish naivete — You need to understand two things: One — Americans are NOT going to give up their guns! That’s one. Number two is this: If you really want to begin a civil war in this country, continue your efforts to take those guns and you will most certainly have one, and I do not think you have any idea, any inkling, of just how ferocious and brutal such a war can be.
If you thought for one moment that American gun owners would assume the fetal position and begin sucking their thumbs — please allow me to disabuse you of that monstrously mistaken assumption!
For the past four years gun owners across America have been planning for just such a move by the gun control crowd. They have been purchasing weapons in record numbers and they have created secret caches of both weapons and ammunition that you simply will not believe. I’d go so far as to say some are even “leaning forward,” eager for the chance to protect the US Constitution.
Look. Trying to confiscate Americans guns will erupt in pitched firefights, gun battles, between American civilians and government law officers. The government will, as Charlton Heston famously stated, have to “pry the weapons from their cold dead hands.” Heck, the government might actually get away with a couple of such encounters before the backlash begins. But it will begin — and when it does, there will be hell to pay. In the end, it will be the end of the United States as we know it.
Understand. There are some states that will move to secede rather than obey federal laws that force their citizens to disarm. Other states will arrest and incarcerate federal officers attempting to disarm that states citizens within the physical boundaries of that state.

I just don’t think the gun control folks are thinking with their brains. They exude emotion — PURE emotion, and a dangerous lack of common sense. What they are pushing for will bring nothing less than wreck and ruin to this country.
Do you realize that the number of armed American hunters, alone, surpasses the numbers of all the standing armies of the world — combined? Deer hunters in just one state, alone, number more than the armies of Iran , France , and Germany combined! SOURCE:

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1889966/pg1 Do you realize that a HUGE proportion of them are veterans of the finest military on the planet?
And don’t think you can just track gun hoarders down and arrest them. It took the US military TEN YEARS to find Osama Bin Laden — and he was one man! Try rounding up millions. Can you see the nightmare?
A law that would try to confiscate guns in America would, like Prohibition, suddenly turn America into a nation of criminals. The Eighteenth Amendment to the Constitution, and the Volstead Act caused multiple deaths. “Effective enforcement of the alcohol ban during the Prohibition Era proved to be very difficult and led to widespread flouting of the law. The lack of a solid popular consensus for the ban resulted in the growth of vast criminal organizations, including the modern American Mafia, and various other criminal cliques. Widespread disregard of the law also generated rampant corruption among politicians and within police forces.” SOURCE:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prohibition_in_the_United_States

Banning so-called assault weapons (otherwise known as “scary looking” weapons) does next to nothing to reduce gun crime. “The Justice Department’s interviews also showed so-called “assault weapons” are not a major cause of gun violence. Only about 8 percent of the inmates used one of the models covered in the now-expired assault weapons ban… .”
Read more at: http://www.wnd.com/2004/12/28253/#Kfd7EWciAw0jzwQi.99
Consider this: “Meanwhile, a study released by the Justice Department suggesting background checks at gun shows would do little to keep firearms out of the hands of criminals.

The study noted the number of criminals who obtained guns from retail outlets was dwarfed by the number of those who picked up their arms through means other than legal purchases. The report was the result of interviews with more than 18,000 state and federal inmates conducted nationwide. It found that nearly 80 percent of those interviewed got their guns from friends or family members, or on the street through illegal purchases.”
Read more at: http://www.wnd.com/2004/12/28253/#Kfd7EWciAw0jzwQi.99

As I write this in my office, behind me on my desk are five containers of ammunition from 30 caliber to 12 gauge double-ought buckshot. Leaning against the wall is one of my guns — well within arm’s length. Visitors to my office think nothing of it. It is a way of life. I began shooting at the age of six. I am always armed — either with an “edged weapon” or a firearm.

Let’s be clear. ASKING gun owners to give up their guns is insulting. DEMANDING that we give them up is going to get someone hurt.

I realize the words above are strong. That is intentional. I am trying to convey to gun control advocates and the Mainstream Media the seriousness of what they are doing and the indelicate manner in which the are approaching the issue. DEMANDING that an American citizen give up a constitutional right is bad enough, but demanding that he give up a constitutional right upon which his freedom and his very life may depend is the ultimate insult and is nothing less than an assault on the constitution itself. This we cannot, we will not, abide.

A note to our national legislators. Those of you supporting gun control legislation should understand it will be a career-ending move on your part. We will brook no such unpleasant nonsense from you.
Gun owners did not seek this fight. We most certainly did not initiate it. Too, we are sick, ad nauseum, of your continuous attacks on our way of life, on our constitutional as well as God given rights as American citizens, and we are sick, beyond words, of your elitist attitude.

As red-blooded Americans have done throughout our history, we will avoid a fight for as long as it is practicable to do so. But when the fight is brought to us we WILL engage with our considerable resources with one goal in mind and that is the utter defeat of our adversary, and a guarantee that the conflict will never be resuscitated, EVER, again.

“Molṑn labéis” ( Molon Labe) is a classical expression of defiance reportedly spoken by King Leonidas I in response to the Persian army’s demand that the Spartans surrender their weapons at the Battle of Thermopylae.
I am seeing more and more e-mails and commentaries on blogs, all over the Internet theses days, close with these two words of defiance. It has quickly become the signature phrase for gun control resistance.
So what does “molon labe ” mean? Well, it is an invitation — and a challenge — all rolled into one. From the original Greek molon labe means: “Come and take ‘em.”

This is a struggle gun owners of America did not seek, do not want, but — intend to win decisively.
J
 
How do I feel?

If this administration is hell bent on open acts of war against law abiding U.S. Citizens,then by god let them have another 1776.

Damn this administration,damn those that blindly support this administration,and damn those that would shrink away from the confrontation that is being openly called for by this administration!

Long live the republic!
 
So you want to go to war with the Government? As in guns blazing, secret meetings, being put on money of the future, war?
 
I don't want to in fact I've been trying to avoid such because I understand that lives are on the line.

But when they ram those laws through,what other choice are we left with?
 
I see this as a PR move to make the general public be happy he's doing something when this fiscal cliff thing dies out and ruins his second term.
 
I got spanked (post deleted; 2 "penalty points") for posting a couple of days ago that Obama risks starting a civil war if he pushes this too hard -- and who outnumbers whom. Maybe that's what he wants, who knows.

What has changed since then, just the Obama has tipped his hand? We knew what cards he's been holding for years.

IBTL
 
The question remains to be answered though....

When those laws are rammed through,what other choice will we be left with?
 
How do I feel?

Pretty good really. We just had some spaghetti for dinner and now I am going to go sit in front of the TV and watch the Cowboys and Indians fight it out one more time. I have put a roof over the head of me and my family, a decent job and achieved most of the goals I have set for myself through life. Still plenty to do. Fat and happy.

I don't think that this is the case for everyone; which is really bad for me and mine.

If two percent or more of the population is violently opposed to the government this could well change everyone's circumstances much for the worse. I am guessing it is no where near 2% of those willing to take up violence in the US.
 
Well, I hope this wakes up all gun owners as to what his real agenda has always been. It is difficult to believe, but just a few weeks ago someone posted something similar to, “Obama is not coming after your guns”. I suppose that may depend on how you interpret “coming after”, but to me it sounds like he is moving right along.

I know for the last few years we’ve kind of danced around this issue, but really is anyone surprised that Mr. Obama is attempting to take away your freedoms?
 
Let's speak candidly about this. To begin with, "assault" weapons are used in less than 2% of gun crimes, so the issue is not about criminal activity. Those in power who seek new laws know this. It speaks to the real reason for such action; control of the populace. This is a major attempt to disarm the People. As such, it cannot be allowed to stand. There are many gun owners who will sit on the fence about it. As long as their bellies are full and the TV is on they will sit blindly and suck up their beer. They are self-seeking lumps thinking of their own safety, without regard for such high ideals as freedom and liberty. We stand on the edge of a major battle for our freedoms and rights, eroded as they are. It is my utmost desire that they be preserved without the shedding of blood, but if it comes to that, if we are freedom loving people, we must stand ready to sacrifice all in the fight. Those who have gone before have indeed paid the ultimate price for the liberties we enjoy. Our time has come and if indeed liberty is to survive, we must come to her aid. It is our right and duty to do so.
 
I feel like talk is cheap and the President is throwing a bone to his base. The President can say that he's putting his full weight behind gun control, but he's not a king and he cannot do anything about "assault weapons" or "high capacity clips" unless congress goes along with him. Once the public outrage and emotion dies down, and I think it's already beginning to, I could see the gun control issue being swept under the rug and dying quietly in committee somewhere. Once that happens, the President will then look at his base and say "well I tried to do something about guns, but those extremist Republicans in Congress wouldn't let me." The fact of the matter is that, outside of the usual suspects like Feinstein, Schumer, and McCarthy, gun control is a very prickly, if not poison, issue for both Democrats and Republicans and I don't think much of anyone who's from a "swing" district really wants to have to vote on it. Obama will blame Congress, Congress will blame each other, and the old Potomac Two-Step will continue as always.
 
I don't think its cheap talk coming from Obama, he has to do this as his handlers on the Left demand this as its part of the over all world agenda to disarm America...has to happen, do or die!
 
It is not just talk, Obama has been hard core anti gun since before he was a senator in the Illinois statehouse. He invariably supported gun control laws as a state senator. He sat on the board of the anti-gun Joyce Foundation. He has said before and after the election that he wants a so called assault weapons ban and also has stated he would support a national ban on concealed carry. This is his second term so he is a lame duck and has nothing to lose and will push this as far as he can.
 
First of all, we've got a politician under discussion who has a long, well-publicized history of supporting gun control. Did his statements on the news come as a surprise to anyone here? Really?

Second, this thread really belongs in L&CR. However, it's not getting moved there. Why? Because of the overt politics and the outlandish talk (no matter how veiled) of an imaginary Second American Revolution.

We don't do either of those here, and some folks need to consider themselves warned.
 
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