NYC gun laws

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shooterdownunder

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Just saw the below on the ever reliable wikipedia under what's considered an assault weapon.

Semi-automatic pistols with detachable magazines and one or more of the following:
Magazine that attaches outside the pistol grip
Threaded barrel to attach barrel extender, flash suppressor, handgrip, or suppressor
Barrel shroud that can be used as a handhold
Unloaded weight of 50 oz (1.4 kg) or more
A semi-automatic version of a fully automatic firearm.
A folding, telescoping or thumbhole stock[20]

Does that mean that a lot of issf pistols are now illegal there? or do they have an exemption for specialist target pistols like we do here?
 
I don't know about NY, but I would assume they are illegal. In CA, they are. There was a case of a young lady (16 IIRC), who was an Olympic competitor. She tried to get a variance for her match pistol (banned because the magazine doesn't go in the pistol grip).

Essentially, the state told her, we don't care, go practice in another state.

I expect NY would have the same attitude.

The definition comes from the 1994 Federal Assault Weapons Ban (AWB) law, originally, and NY, CA, and some other states passed state laws at that time using the same definitions. The Fed law had a sunset clause, (it went away in 2004), the state laws did not, and are still in force, and (particularly in NY's case) have been expanded, with additional things added to them (NY SAFE Act, etc.)

REASON does not matter. REALITY does not matter. If it meets the definition they put in law, it is restricted / prohibited. It's the LAW.
 
Actually, the California Assault Weapons ban preceded the federal ban of 1994, and was likely the model for the Federal ban, and maybe some of the AW bans subsequently passed in other states. California's Roberti-Roos Assault Weapons Ban was passed in 1989, and was signed by Governor Deukmejian, a Republican. If memory serves me correct, it was an earlier schoolyard shooting in Stockton, CA, by a nut with a semi auto AK47, in which several children were killed, that served as the final push for successful passage of this bill and its signing by a Republican Governor. Up until that time, California had not been particularly unfriendly to gun owners, but it seems like that year was the beginning of the numerous anti gun laws California has seen since.
 
Does that mean that a lot of issf pistols are now illegal there?
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Yup, NY and CA laws make our laws here in MA seem lenient. You cant even bring a gun into NY state as a non resident unless you are just passing through and spending less than 24hrs there, which makes it really tough for competitors and really discourages anyone from competing in NY state.
 
Wow. That's more messed up than some of our laws.
ps. I had a look at the california one. It says that olympic pistols are exempted from being considered an assault weapon.
 
You cant even bring a gun into NY state as a non resident unless you are just passing through and spending less than 24hrs there, which makes it really tough for competitors
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Simply FALSE. Many competitors from all over just finished the NY State Sporting Clays Championships and they all brought their guns with them for several days. The CT Travelers hosts many shoots in NY State as well with ZERO issues. A friend of mine goes back there for the summer (he is now a FL resident - again, with ZERO issues.
 
"Simply FALSE." No, half false, half true. Handguns must be in FOPA condition. Long guns sans "assault rifles" can be brought in. But nothing into NYC.
 
The statement I was referring to was the one above where it was mentioning not being able to bring a "GUN" into NYS, no mention of the city. That is simply BS.
 
You cant even bring a gun into NY state as a non resident unless you are just passing through and spending less than 24hrs there, which makes it really tough for competitors and really discourages anyone from competing in NY state.
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This only applies to handguns.

David
 
Dragline45 said:
Yup, NY and CA laws make our laws here in MA seem lenient. You cant even bring a gun into NY state as a non resident unless you are just passing through and spending less than 24hrs there, which makes it really tough for competitors and really discourages anyone from competing in NY state.
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I thought New York (state) -- as well as Massachusetts and Connecticut -- had an exception for sanctioned competitions. Not so?
 
California, and CT have exemptions for olympic style handguns with the magazine outside of the grip. But they have different peculiarities as to which ones qualify, and how they have to be recognized by the state. I don't know if NY and MA have similar exemptions, but the CT exemption is based on the California exemption.


I'm in CT and I want a Ruger Charger. I wonder if I could buy one to train for the olympics with it.:D
 
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