NY: Gov.Guncontrol gets his wishlist

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State Politicians Betray NY Gun Owners
-- Clintonesque Restrictions Forced by Gov. "Gun Control"

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New York Legislative Wrap-up June 28, 2000

New York State gun owners took a beating at the State Capitol late
last week as the State Senate joined ranks with rabidly anti-gun
Governor Pataki and his minions in the State Assembly to pass
Governor Gun Control's "5-Point Invasion" of your rights in its
entirety -- and then some.

The politicians sold you out even beyond the 5 points of Pataki's
outrageous original plan, which included:

* A Gun and Ammo Ban with FELONY penalties -- A ban on the
manufacture and/or possession of so-called "assault weapons" and
medium capacity magazines -- possession will be considered a
"violent felony!"

* Forced Brady Registration at gun shows and flea markets --
registration for all sales at gun shows -- a gun show is now
defined as anywhere there are 25 or more handguns for sale --
you collectors out there do the math! This will eventually choke
the business of gun shows in the state as well as lead to the
registration of ALL private transfers.

* "Gun DNA" program that will amass a huge gun database -- A
database of everything about your gun! You will foot the
enormous bill to implement this program. This is a gun-tracking
nightmare -- you will be tied to a gun on a list. If you sell it
or it is stolen, it will still be linked to you.

* Raising the age on self-defense -- from 18 to 21. This foolish
restriction will result only in law-abiding young adults being
disarmed and at the mercy of gangs and street thugs who don't
obey the law.

* Point of Purchase gun lock requirement -- requires all sellers
to provide a locking device with every sale or transfer -- with
the cost being passed directly on to you. The next step will be
criminal penalties for gun owners who don't lock up their safety.

In addition to these original anti-gun proposals from the governor,
they also passed legislation to create a new program to work with
the ATF and other agencies called the "Gun Trafficking Interdiction
Program," using your tax dollars to supplement your other tax
dollars already being spent by the feds.

Even more frightening, this package allows for stricter local
government controls than those listed by the state -- meaning
differing restrictions are possible from town to town or county to
county, virtually assuring that you will be committing a crime
somewhere along the way.

The politicians at the state capitol have given Governor "Gun
Control" his wish list -- and New York's gun owners are going to
foot the bill for the restrictions placed against them.


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Clarification: The "assault weapon ban" portion does nothing beyond what the federal AW ban has already done; NY has just codified it into state law. If your AW is federally legal, it's state legal. That's the good news.

The bad news is that the feds focused on manufactureres (you had to do something really bad to get their attention personally); the state will presumably focus on individual posession, quite possibly requiring you to prove in court that your AW was lawfully owned (by someone) before September 1994 - and even if you succeed, you'll be stuck with a violent felony arrest on your record.

The bill doesn't do anything new directly, but does provide a new way to abuse old law.
 
I know at least one local person who mentioned that this type of events in his home state would have lead to his taking of a warpath. I wouldn't expect him to last at it or to figure out who's at fault. If he is actually serious, I hope that his counterparts in NY are smarter and figure out ways to get the right people without endangering neutrals...or getting caught. The political solution seems unlikely if, as you mentioned, mere suspicion would yield a criminal record (though of arrest and not of a conviction).
 
Nothing new here. Pataki, Guiliani (sp?) are nothing more than Marxist Socialist elitists who hate, loathe and despise the Coonstitution. The only difference between them and Hillary is that Hillary stands up to pee.

By the way, will the Mafia be paying kickbacks to Pataki and Guiliani for all the blackmarket guns they smuggle into new York???? Hmmmm. J.B.
 
Here is the NY Post's take on it - from http://www.newyorkpost.com/commentary/6912.htm

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A ‘GUN CONTROL' LAW MADE IN WONDERLAND

By FREDRIC U. DICKER

IF the public needed another reason to be cynical about New York politics, the "toughest gun law in the nation" - passed by the Legislature at Gov. Pataki's urging last week - is as good as it gets.
The new law is not the toughest in the nation - gun-crime-ridden Washington, D.C., possesses that dubious distinction.

And, more significantly, the new law - despite the hype from election-conscious politicians and their gullible media allies - isn't likely to have much, if any, impact on gun crimes in New York.

That's not just the view of pro-gun forces. It is, in fact, the view of many important officials in Pataki's own administration, as well as in the Legislature, where the final version of the new law - watering down the governor's original proposal - was drafted.

"No new firearms are outlawed" by the new law, says a confidential briefing paper prepared for internal state Senate consumption. "Neither the federal law, nor the new state law, apply to assault weapons lawfully possessed prior to Sept. 14, 1994."

Translation: Far from banning so-called "assault weapons," as Pataki and dozens of Democratic and (politically nervous) suburban GOP lawmakers have contended, the new law bans no guns at all.

It merely puts the existing federal ban - on post-1994 semi-automatic military look-alike guns falsely called "assault weapons" - into state law.

What about Pataki's much-vaunted "gun DNA" program, which he said "will make New York a national leader in digitized ballistics tracking"? In fact, the newly approved legislation is not what the governor started out seeking.

When Pataki breathlessly unveiled his anti-gun proposals on national television last March, he urged a law forcing gun makers to record the supposedly tell-tale "DNA" markings gun barrels leave on fired bullets.

But that provision was removed by lawmakers concerned about the requirement's questionable value and potential high cost.

The new law does require manufacturers to provide the state with a spent shell casing so that the primer mark - caused by the striking of the firing pin - can be digitally recorded.

Putting aside the fact that most serious gun crimes in New York involve guns purchased out of state - and therefore not subject to the new state requirement - changing the shell casing's "DNA" is easy. "All the criminal has to do is change the firing pin," notes the NRA's Albany lobbyist, Chris McGrath.

The legislation also requires new guns in New York to be sold with supposedly child-resistant trigger locks. But there's no requirement that the locks be used.

And the law closes the gun-show "loophole" which let citizens purchase rifles and shotguns without undergoing a federal background check - much like a citizen can now do by purchasing a rifle or shotgun through the local Want-Ad Digest.

But that "loophole" was of increasingly reduced significance, because many embattled gun-show sponsors have recently imposed such a standard themselves.

Last week, Pataki claimed the new law would prevent "18- and 19-year-olds hanging around school yards" from grabbing a gun and shooting someone.

How? It does ban those under 21 from obtaining a pistol permit to own a handgun. But anyone who has ever tried to obtain a pistol permit knows how difficult the licensing process is. How many 18- and 19-year-olds have been granted such permits in recent years, and how many engaged in criminal activities?

A good, and legitimate, question to be asked of someone seeking to take away an existing legal right.

But Pataki administration officials confess they just don't have the answer.

If all this starts to have an "Alice in Wonderland" quality to it - well, welcome to Albany, 2000, a "through the looking glass" world if there ever was one.

This is, after all, the Albany where a conservative Republican governor, Pataki, metamorphizes into a Cuomo-like tax-and-spend liberal in just a few months.

It's a setting where a conservative Republican Senate Majority Leader, Joseph Bruno, who once denounced the homosexual lifestyle, has become a gay-rights champion and the moving force behind new "hate crimes" laws.

It's a state Capitol that watched in amazement last month as dozens of left-wing liberal "reformers" fought efforts to bring small "d" democracy to the Assembly's Democratic Conference.

And, above all, it's a place which - even as we enter the 21st century - continues to resist the encrouchments of such "modern" values as candor, honesty and openness.

Fredric U. Dicker is The Post's State Editor.



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Okay all you "Enforce the laws on the
books" types, how would you like an
arrest for a "Violent Felony" -which would
strip you of your right to vote, right
to ever bear arms again, right to serve on
a jury if convicted, even if you never did time- for having a stock magazine for a lawfully purchased pistol? (There is no
such thing as a handgun).

All gun control laws are repugnant to the
constitution and must be repealed.

This is sickening.
 
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