NY Ammo Purchase?

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sgtmaj13

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While on business trip to NY stopped at a Wally World in Fishkill, NY to see if they had any Nyclads. Was told I couldn't purchase handgun ammo without a permit???? Is this for real for locals as well as visitors? Are there other states with this kind of requirement? I was so shocked I didn't even ask what kind of permit was required. I've never run into this anywhere else I've been so would really like to know about other states if required,
so I don't look like such a fool.

Thanks,
SgtMaj13
 
IIRC, to buy handgun ammo in NY, you have to have a permit to own a pistol of that caliber. This supposedly assures that people cannot buy ammo for illegal guns, "zip" guns, and the like.

Naturally, the law has eliminated all violent crime in NY.

Jim
 
"Show me your papers, please!"

I think you will find the same thing to be true in Illinois, where (thanks to Mayor Daley and his minions) crime has also become a thing of the past. Illinois has had a "Firearm Owners Identification Card" for many years and it must be presented in order to purchase ANY ammunition. There may be an exception for rifle and shotshell ammo purchased in season provided that an out-of-state purchaser can produce a valid home state ID and an Illinois hunting license.
 
Could it be just a Wally World thing?
I live in northern NJ and don't like to produce ID when I buy handgun ammo, so I go across the state line and buy from a NY dealer. No ID requested ever.
 
Thank you Gentlemen. Knowing Wally World's history, I'll go with the store policy theory. CA, NJ, MA, IL, and now NY, I'm learning to love PA more and more with each passing day. Thanks again for your speedy replies.

SgtMaj13
 
It's a county by county thing in NY state. I have only been asked twice, both times in sports authority. Once I was buying 22LR!

Hi Point carbines are verry popular in NY:D
 
First time I am hearing about it. May be a store policy or may be a jerk clerk. What if you own a carbine that uses pistol ammo? I think you should have spoken to the manager!
 
Only time I've run into this in Central NY was at Dick's Sporting Goods when I was purchasing some .32 auto. I asked about it. Seems it is store policy to ask to see one's pistol permit when purchasing cartridges for which there is no rifle chambered in the same cartridge. Never been "carded" for the purchase of 9mm, .40 S&W, or .44 mag, as there are carbines chambered in all these rounds. I like the local Dick's, as the guys in the hunting dept. are all local shooters and hunters, and are a very knowledgable bunch. They told me they only ask to see permits for .25, .32, and .380.
 
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From my experience, you are required to have a NY pistol permit in order to buy pistol ammo in NY. I have yet to get away with not being carded.

In the case of some people not getting carded, either it's such a community type area that the guys know the right time to card or they just don't know any better.
 
This is extreemly strange, you made me drag out the book. I have the regulations Green and blue books from the atf becuase I have a Class 03 ffl.

There is no mention at all of requireing a permit to purchase pistol ammo. I don't know where you guys are going but I have been in 50 (1000's of hours) of so gun shops and have never seen anyones permit checked for purchasing of pistol ammo.

I am of course not doughting your experience, I just wonder if it is local laws in places that I never go (like within 150 miles of the NYC)
 
I also find it very strange as there is no law I know that requires a buyer to show his handgun permit/license. I have a handgun permit issued by the Suffolk County Police department for my handgun ownership, but have never needed it in all the years of buying ammo regardless of where on Long Island I was.

As an example, I was in a gun shop called T&T Gunnery in Seaford, L.I. as were four uniformed LEO's while I was in the process of buying several boxes of handgun ammo in half a dozen different calibers. The clerks behind the counter don't know me well enough to know if I'm licensed or not, but could care less as they don't need that to sell ammunition.

As was mentioned by several others, it's probably a store policy more than anything else, but it certainly has nothing to do with a New York State policy.

Safe Shooting.
 
In MA, you need either a firearms license (either LTC or FID) in order to purchase or possess ammunition or components thereof.

M1911
 
update?

so i was trying to figure out what was good with buying ammo in new york, stumbled onto this forum, just now noticed it is from 2001!!!!!!! but before i even noticed that, i decided i wasn't happy with the results and started researching.

Saturday, 10 April 2010 10:57
These are for informational purposes only. Please check the local governments for any updates or changes.
New York City Title 38, rules and regulations pertaining to firearms

(k) No ammunition suitable for use in a rifle of any calibre, or for a shotgun of any gauge, shall be sold, given away, or otherwise disposed of to any person who has not been issued a rifle/shotgun permit and a certificate of registration, and who does not exhibit the same to the dealer at the time of purchase. Rifle or shotgun ammunition shall not be sold to any such person except for the shotgun or for the specific calibre of rifle for which the certificate of registration has been issued.
(l) The Rifle/Shotgun Section advises all dealers that certain ammunition calibres are considered to be interchangeable between rifles and handguns. Sales of ammunition in these calibres shall be recorded by dealers. The following list includes most of the calibres likely to be sold as pistol, revolver, or interchangeable ammunition; however, it is not necessarily inclusive:
.4mm Rimfire
.17 Bumble Bee and Ackley Bee
.17 Hornet and "K" Hornet
.17 Mach IV
.17-222 and .17-223
5mm Remington Mag. Rimfire
.22, .25 and .32 Rimfire
.22 Rem. Jet Mag. and .22 Win. Mag.
.22 Hornet and .22 "K" Hornet
.221 Remington Fireball
.222 Remington
.223 Remington
.25 (6.35mm) ACP
25-35 Winchester
.256 Winchester Mag.
7.5mm revolver
.30 Luger (7.65mm)
.30 Mauser (7.63mm)
7.62mm Tokarev
7.65mm French Long
.30-30 (.30 WCF)
.30 calibre Carbine
.32 revolver (all types)
.32 (7.65ww) ACP
.32-20 Winchester
.357 Mag.
.357-44 B&D
9mm pistol and revolver (all types)
.38 revolver (all types)
.38 Special pistol and revolver (all types)
.38-40 Winchester
.38-44 special
.38 Super
.38 AMU
.38 ACP
.380 ZACP
.41 revolver (all types)
.41 Mag.
.44 revolver (all types)
.45-38 automatic
.45 pistol and revolver (all types)
.455 pistol and revolver (all types)
 
Rochester and many suburbs and townships had a similar regulation. I had to go to the Gander Mountain, just outside the limits, to purchase handgun ammo during my short (and hated) stay there.

However... some of the townships had not specified what cartridges were considered "handgun ammunition". So, saying it was for a rifle worked -- as long as they had it in stock (which was usually never).
 
I live in IL-

Its true, even in a gun store (not a wally world) you need a FOID permit to buy ammo. The laws are terrible here. I'm OUT after my degree.
 
Our local NY China Mart has a couple of boxes of 22 ammo and some cheap shotgun shells, no pistol ammo. They could care less about any gun business, I hate the place and do everything I can to stay away from them.
 
While buying ammo at Wally mart, I have been asked if the ammo is for a pistol or a rifle. If I answered "pistol", then they asked to see my Pistol permit. If I answered "rifle" everything was good and the questions stopped! Guess what I answer every time I'm buying ammo at wally mart?

Dicks on the other hand, doesn't seem to care it the ammo is for a pistol or a rifle. If the ammo you want to buy is a common pistol caliber, you had better have a NYS pistol permit on you...WITH the caliber you want to buy listed on it!

My Dicks story goes something like this, I went in to pick up some .44 mag ammo they had on sale for my Rossi .44 mag lever action. The clerk asked if the ammo was for a pistol or rifle. I responded rifle. He then asked to see my pistol permit. I explained the ammo was for a .44 lever action rifle and that producing my pistol permit was not necessary. He then told me that he could not sell me the ammo! That was the last time I stopped into Dicks!
 
The Fishkill NY Wally World is the one that I shop at. Here are some observations on this particular WalMart:

1) It is hit or miss whether or not you will be asked for a pistol permit to purchase "handgun" ammo.

2) I actually asked the clerk why it was needed and he told me that it was a WalMart policy.

The reason I put the word "handgun" in quotes is because there are carbine rifles in many popular handgun calibers.

Ultimately, if you tell the clerk that it is not for a handgun, but for a rifle/carbine, they will sell it to you.

-George
 
Syracuse, New York

LOL I had an apartment complex (on James St.) confiscate my 5.56mm ammo purchase and would not let me have it until they reported it to the local police. Police said: Huh? Are you stupid lady that is postal theft. That seemed to motivate them to give me my ammo.;)

NYS is a real tool ... beware and stay away. I agree with the above post: It was a "hated stay". :barf:
 
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