NRA's First Freedom. Kudos!

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416Rigby

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I have just received and perused the premier issue of NRA's 1st Freedom magazine, which will replace the American guardian.

I must really say that the new look, design, and the sheer potency of all the pro-RKBA information in this publication is truly praiseworthy.

How anyone can nitpick at the NRA after seeing one of these mags is really beyond me.

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I could be wrong, but my understanding was that the NRA would still publish the American Guardian along with the new magazine.

Joe
 
I don't know what's replacing what, but 416 is exactly right -- America's First Freedom is a great new magazine. The cover of the first issue -- a morphed photo of Clinton and the Evil Al Gore -- is priceless.
 
Just got mine today! Read it cover to cover, like always. I agree! this was the best magazine I ever got from the NRA. I don't know who came up with the idea to replace the Guardian..... but I don't think they could have done a better job! I LOVE IT!
CJB

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Does anyone know how to get it? I'm a regular member and receive the American Hunter. Is this a seperate subscription?

Thanks,



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Richard

The debate is not about guns,
but rather who has the ultimate power to rule,
the People or Government.
RKBA!
 
Bokkie,

You should call the NRA headquarters and ask them to replace The American Hunter with the First Freedom magazine.

I really think it's worth reading and enjoying!
 
I disagree completely! I've been reluctant to join the NRA, given their complicity in the Brady Bill / NICS and other travesties betraying my Constitutional rights, preferring instead to send my dollars in other directions. Finally I did join, in part because of their tougher stance recently. However, I wanted to receive a magazine focusing on defense and related issues, not a self-congratulatory magazine presenting news and issues that are old hat (thanks to the internet) by the time I read the NRA's spin on them.


I think it was pretty lousy of them to spring this surprise switcheroo. It's not that great of a magazine, it doesn't cover the issues I signed up to read about, what it does cover it covers uncritically (how great they think they are), and I've already read more objective coverage elsewhere by the time they send their softball articles out. I definitely would have chosen a different magazine had I known this was in the works.


Clever picture on the front or not, color me greatly unimpressed. Boooooo!
 
Not to really play devil's advocate, beachrat, but how are you playing the pro-RKBA game?

You clearly like to stand on the sidelines and boo the most effective team we have ever had on our side. Sure, they have lost a few matches, which is probably why you so dislike them.

Sorry, but it sounds to me that you yourself have made a pretty uncritical assessment of the NRA and their new magazine.

You have a lot of gripes. I would be really interested in knowing how you back them up.
 
I think the magazine looks great. I do agree that the content is old, but that's because I use the Internet to get the majority of my news. The vast majority of NRA members do not get their news from the Net and this magazine will do a great deal to keep the silent majority informed. I think that America's First Freedom is a wise move on the NRA's part.

As far as the personal defense content is concerned, I don't think the NRA is a very good authority for the advanced operator, operator, or the home defender. There are many other significantly better sources than the NRA. See:
http://www.gunsite.com

http://www.gabesuarez.com

http://www.paladin-press.com

http://www.pdt-tech.com

http://www.frontsight.com


[This message has been edited by Mendocino (edited May 24, 2000).]
 
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by 416Rigby:
Not to really play devil's advocate, beachrat, but how are you playing the pro-RKBA game?

You clearly like to stand on the sidelines and boo [/quote]

You've jumped to some strong conclusions on the basis of misreading what I wrote. Wanting to read about defense and security aspects of gun ownership does not equal wanting to read a piece about how beautiful those really expensive shotguns are. Following RKBA issues and directing my attention, my money, and my energy to supporting groups that most closely reflect my beliefs on these important questions does not mean that I am confused about what the NRA has and has not done. Being passionately devoted to protecting my Constitutional rights does not mean that I have to suspend all critical thought where an organization's administration makes a unilateral and unannounced decision to replace a magazine of substance with a puff pastry of political pooftah.

Sorry if it's difficult to follow these ever so esoteric points without turning to a lame ad hominem attack.

[This message has been edited by beachrat (edited May 25, 2000).]

[This message has been edited by beachrat (edited May 26, 2000).]
 
From what I read, the magazine had all the stuff the Guardian had + lots more RTKBA information. Because of that it's a lot thicker, almost like a real magazine instead of a hand out. I think this is a good move because with so many NRA members it's important to keep everyone abreast of the issues. Not everyone spends the time or has the time to research issues and recieve online alerts for legislative issues.

Even though I had heard of all the issues posted it was nice to read them in a chronological order to see how each event influenced the next.

I send my money to other organizations too but I realize that their lone cry is nothing compared to the soon to be 4,000,000 strong NRA thunder. The fight fire with fire approach is also long overdue but maybe now the time is right. All the polls are showing that people in the US are realizing that guns are not the problem. They are now ready to hear why. The NRA media blitz is probably well timed with that in mind.
The NRA is the only group with the funds to do this. Heck, in another couple of years we may be our own political party.

Sorry, got carried away, yes I like 1st Freedom mag...lol.

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Live long and defend yourself!
John 3:16
 
if you add FF to you membership for $14 a year you get entered in the contest where you can win an Alaskan hunt & some nice arms

dZ
 
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by beachrat:
.......an organization's administration makes a unilateral and unannounced decision to replace a magazine of substance with a puff pastry of political pooftah.

Sorry if it's difficult to follow these ever so esoteric points without turning to a lame ad hominem attack.[/quote]

Qote (originally posted by 416Rigby):

You have a lot of gripes. I would be really interested in knowing how you back them up.

;)
 
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by leedesert:
From what I read, the magazine had all the stuff the Guardian had + lots more RTKBA information. [/quote]

The forewards make clear that this magazine is intended to be a whole new different thing -- it's not an evolution of the Guardian, it's a replacement of an entirely different sort.

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR> I think this is a good move because with so many NRA members it's important to keep everyone abreast of the issues. [/quote]

So why not cancel everyone else's magazines and send out only this new thing, if it's so important? Or add the new magazine as an option? Or at least *ask* subscribers to a magazine with certain content if they want to cancel that magazine and start getting one with this entirely new perspective?

Some people pay extra for extra magazines. It's unethical for the NRA to take our money and start sending us a different magazine. Especially to do this without informing folks, without consulting folks, without giving folks a chance to pick a different, substantive magazine rather than a rehashed digest of stuff they may already know.

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR> I send my money to other organizations too but I realize that their lone cry is nothing compared to the soon to be 4,000,000 strong NRA thunder. [/quote]

Exactly what concerns me. The organization that decided for me that it was okay to give a 'gun-owners' seal of approval on a bill infringing my Constitutional RKBA (a right delayed is a right denied -- how about the mysterious failure of NICS during the four days surrounding the MMM? Gun buyers and gun shops both were hurt by that, and it's sure to happen again.) also thinks it's perfectly fine and dandy to decide for me what magazine I "need" to read. AFAIU, this was done, contrary to the bylaws, without even the approval of the Board.

Terrific. Some subset of the NRA leadership thinks they know better than I do what I want and they're sure they know better than I do what is best for me. They think they are so wise that they don't even need to inform me, much less give me a voice or a choice.

Funny, that reminds me of another set of power-mongerers...

Thank goodness for the JPFO, SAF, and GOA.


[This message has been edited by beachrat (edited May 26, 2000).]
 
I thought it was the best mag they have ever put out.

As far as the news being old. Yes, that is especially true for those of us who regularly are on the NET. However, the majority of gunowners are not on the net and I am glad that they will be reading about Connecticut's gun grab laws, CA's Bans etc. etc .etc. ad nauseum.

Amybe it'll get us even more momentum.

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