NRA warns of end-run around 2A

Status
Not open for further replies.

pnac

New member
I agree that our current President has no understanding of or regard for our Constitution, but I really think this is a bit of NRA fear-mongering. I'm a big NRA supporter, and I wish they didn't do this sort of thing. Obama will be cruising dangerously close to getting himself impeached if (when?) he goes ahead with his immigration "reforms" via Executive Order. If he piles serious anti-gun measures on top of that he might not only get impeached but, with a Republican Senate majority and a large number of pro-gun Democrats and Democrats from pro-gun states, he might just get convicted as well. (Probably the best thing Omama's got going in his defense is that then we'd all end with Joe Biden as POTUS for a couple years.)
 
NRA has a marketing department, like any other sophisticated lobbying type business/organization. This is known as rallying the base, which then is always inevitably followed by a request for donations. It works.

With all due respect Fly, every criticism you've levied against Obama can also be levied against the hero of the right, Ray-gun, who granted Amnesty to undocumented persons via the 1986 Immigration Reform and Control Act. As for doing an end run around the Constitution bit, Reagan issued 381 executive orders versus Obamas 193 executive orders.

Source
http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/data/orders.php

The 2A fight is monolithic issue that transcends politics and social ideology.
 
Last edited:
With all due respect Fly, every criticism you've levied against Obama can also be levied against the hero of the right, Ray-gun, who granted Amnesty to undocumented persons via the 1986 Immigration Reform and Control Act. As for doing an end run around the Constitution bit, Reagan issued 381 executive orders versus Obamas 193 executive orders.

I'm not sure what "every criticism" you might be referring to. I was simply summarizing the political situation as I see it, which I believe leads to a conclusion that Obama is unlikely to be issuing EOs that will infringe on the rights of gun owners, and therefore the NRA position amounts to fear-mongering.

As for the comparison with Reagan, the 1986 Immigration Reform and Control Act became law by passing both houses of Congress, which, whether we like the outcome or not, whether Reagan was in favor of the bill or not, is exactly the way the Constitution says the government is supposed to work. And with regard to Executive Orders, there is nothing inherently unconstitutional about them, so comparing Reagan's 381 to Obama's 193, or even bringing in Ulysses S. Grant's 217, FDR's 3,522 (!), or the count of any of the other US Presidents, all of whom with the sole exception of William Henry Harrison, issued Executive Orders, is a meaningless exercise. What's important is whether the scope of those Orders was within the powers of the Chief Executive as granted by the Constitution.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top