NRA Rallying Point?

DaleA

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Should we all rally around the following quote from the NRA?

The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun.

If we can make the general public aware that ANY semi-automatic rifle or pistol could be used in a ‘massacre’ and that there are LITERALLY MILLIONS of these guns out there in public hands and that there is no chance of getting rid of them. no chance at all, maybe we can put a halt to some of the idiot gun bans and magazine bans that are being proposed.

Maybe we should make the point that there will always be guns, there will always be crazy people, there will be “gun violence” and we can cower in front of it or confront it.
 
Sounds good to us, but that's not what the public is going to listen to.

Whatever the legislators do to make the public feel safer is what they want to hear.
 
I said in another thread I thought that was a horrible line and likely to be the only sound bite used my many...if not most media organizations. It sounds to the anti-gun crowd like more "crazy gun talk" and to the undecided fence-sitters it's clever line than offers nothing to the discussion. I think it was a huge mistake to say it.

I think we in the gun community have a rally point and have had it for years and years know...the 2A and facts. Our approach, or lack of one, has been the problem in the mainstream media by the main stream gun owners, IMO. Instead of reactionary and inflammatory remarks to their reactionary and inflammatory remarks, we should be taking the high road. We have many, many facts on our side...countries that aren't 3rd world countries that have more gun control and higher murder rates...countries that have high gun ownership rates and lower murder rates than us. Violent crime being down across the board for years now, in some cases record lows. That the real slippery slope is in reality tinkering with the "Bill of Rights" and not the 30 round magazine. Any real and effective method of combating violence and crime can't focus on tools instead of their root causes. Etc, etc, etc, etc. We need to start rallying around those and getting that across in a manner that doesn't turn off the nonbeliever and undecided.
I think we in the gun community, the NRA included, need to start taking a more reasoned approach to the coming battle ahead.
Lately I keep thinking back to years ago when Tom Selleck got ambushed on Rosie O'Donald's show after Columbine. He handled a truly ugly attack by an emotional and misinformed person with style and grace, and he probably got his point across to the undecided far better than her. If that were a constant tactic employed by us as a whole, it would soon be clear who's arguing from facts and who's arguing from emotion and hysteria. Once we get them listening for the right reasons and in a more respectful manner than the reactionary and hysterical manner the other side is using right now, I believe all the things we'd like to get across...we're overwhelming law abiding and good citizens, a semi-auto is a semi-auto regardless of appearance, an assault rifle is a military weapon...which isn't what we own, and that sometimes it truly is the good guy with the gun that might be what's needed to beat the bad guy with a gun...will naturally follow.
 
I believe now we will see if its just a gun grab and attack on the 2nd amendment or if school safety is the real concern.
I also believe we have to rally around the NRA because they are the ones fighting the hardest to protect our 2nd amendment.
We have a police sub station in our high school with 3 armed police officers there daily for the entire day, it has stopped the violence and we have an extremely safe school now.
 
Yes a police presence is got to be the answer. Some communities have substations in malls too, but it needs to be uniform across the nation
 
Albuquerque Public Schools has their own police force, however the last I read
was they are still shy of showing their weapons, even in uniform. I find this particularly irksome. I don't want officers lives lost or the kids to be less protected. It's a start, I suppose.
 
Are the anti's jumping on LaPierre's comments as "crazy gun talk"? Sure they are. Does what he said make any difference to them? Not one bit. These people have been trying to demonize the NRA for decades and nothing LaPierre said short of "you were right and we were wrong so we give up" will placate them.

We must get past this notion that all these anti-gun politicians and pundits really want to solve the problem because many, if not most, of them don't. Ask yourself where people like Sarah Brady and Carolyn McCarthy would be if there was no gun violence. Out of a job, that's where. While some probably have good, albeit misguided, intentions a significant number of these people have made a career out of gun control and they have to keep the issue alive in order to justify their own existence.

I cannot help but think that a large part of the reason that the gun control crowd is so shrill after this incident is because they're desperate. Gun control has been a dying issue for at least ten years now. Given that gun sales are at record highs as is new NRA memberships, I have a very hard time believing that the gun control crowd is a strong as they'd have us believe and that the NRA is so weak.
 
As gun owners whether you love the NRA or hate it we had better rally around them. They are the largest and strongest gun group of all and will do the most to protect our rights. Everyone please send an emergency contribution to the NRA-ILA whether you are a member or not.
 
It will always be a people problem.

Should we all rally around the following quote from the NRA?
My be a bit blunt but does address the basic people issue, instead of attacking guns, bullets and magazines. First, you take steps to protect good folks and stop the bad ones. If we won't lock them up, we better be prepared to stop them when they "finally" go over the edge. ;)

The 2nd amendment needs no interpretation. ... :rolleyes:


Support the 2A and;
Be Safe !!!
 
The pure anti's will always have heart palpitations when the word "gun" is used. We will not convince them to change their minds. The general public, however, has always been able to deal with a scenario of the good guy with a gun versus the bad guy with a gun. They see it all the time with our soldiers versus the enemy soldiers, our policeman versus the criminal, prison guards versus inmates,

Guns to protect our school children is certainly a new concept, but not a difficult one to accept when you picture a classroom of elementary school-age kids trapped with no way to escape. We have never had to deal with that horrible image on the scale of which our society has just had put before us. Hope and change and feel-good gun control laws pale in comparison to a motivated and trained guard standing between the children and the would-be murderer.
 
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