Now I know what Feinstein and Schumer

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are going for with Judge Roberts:

They are afraid that the commerce clause will be weakened. And why, because it's their ace in the hole with gun control.

On O'Reily tonight, that was his biggest complaint. He also said that he didn't like the court as it stands because they wish to take away their "right" to regulate things that don't go across state lines and are even trying to weaken it.

I'm thinking that they are gearing up for a big gun control and/or ban in the near future.

Wayne

And I didn't bother to see how their names were spelled, I just gave it my best guess. If that insults or upsets anyone, let me apologize now and get it over with.
 
The collective constitutional knowledge of the Senate Dems is zilch. They just view it as a barrier for total federal unchecked power and want a judge who also sees it that way. Pretty scary. Notice how they ignore the constitutional issues and legal questions and focus on things like "Why does SCOTUS hate women by overruling the Violence Against Women Act and why does SCOTUS hate children by overruling the Gun Free School Zone Act and yada yada yada...". :rolleyes:
 
Wayne, you've just uncovered the political definition of Judicial restraint and activism.

Restraint = Allowing Congress to pass whatever law it thinks is necessary.

Activism = Slapping the Congress down with the Constitution.

If you thought those terms meant anything else, you got it wrong.
 
Without the ability to regulate "commerce," most federal laws would be neutered. Not just gun control, but just about any federal law.

And Chuckie would be out of a job.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but if I manufacture a gun of my own design, using materials from within my own state, I'm OK by federal law. The problem is that the steel may have come from another state. Yes? No?
 
I just can't for the life of me understand the mindset of the kind of people who'd elect Schumer and Klinton to represent them in the U.S. Senate.
 
Monkeyleg wrote:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but if I manufacture a gun of my own design, using materials from within my own state, I'm OK by federal law. The problem is that the steel may have come from another state. Yes? No?
It gets more complicated than that.

Since you are using steel you bought that was in interstate commerce, the Congress believes it can control what you do with that steel.

So, you find iron ore and process your own steel... All from materials that never moved in interstate commerce. Congress has said that they can control your actions still, because by doing all of this, you affected commerce by not buying.

That, essentially, was the ruling in Filburn. That was also the single case that allows the Congress so much control, over everything we do.
 
Indeed, the Commerce Clause has become the real catchall in modern society due to the widespread trade between the states of nearly every good.

I don't think that our forefathers really intended the Commerce Clause to be so far reaching, mainly based on their vision of a small government.

To that end, I think the CC is abused too often.

However, the Supreme Court has restrained allowing its abuse on occassion. Note UNITED STATES v. LOPEZ, 1995. After respondent, then a 12th-grade student, carried a concealed handgun into his high school, he was charged with violating the Gun-Free School Zones Act of 1990, which forbids "any individual knowingly to possess a firearm at a place that [he] knows . . . is a school zone," 18 U.S.C. 922(q)(1)(A). The District Court denied his motion to dismiss the indictment, concluding that 922(q) is a constitutional exercise of Congress' power to regulate activities in and affecting commerce. In reversing, the Court of Appeals held that, in light of what it characterized as insufficient congressional findings and legislative history, 922(q) is invalid as beyond Congress' power under the Commerce Clause.

The Supreme Court held the Act exceeds Congress' Commerce Clause authority. First, although this Court has upheld a wide variety of congressional Acts regulating intrastate economic activity that substantially affected interstate commerce, the possession of a gun in a local school zone is in no sense an economic activity that might, through repetition elsewhere, have such a substantial effect on interstate commerce. Section 922(q) is a criminal statute that by its terms has nothing to do with "commerce" or any sort of economic enterprise, however broadly those terms are defined. Nor is it an essential part of a larger regulation of economic activity, in which the regulatory scheme could be undercut unless the intrastate activity were regulated. It cannot, therefore, be sustained under the Court's cases upholding regulations of activities that arise out of or are connected with a commercial transaction, which viewed in the aggregate, substantially affects interstate commerce. Second, 922(q) contains no jurisdictional element which would ensure, through case-by-case inquiry, that the firearms possession in question has the requisite Page II nexus with interstate commerce. Respondent was a local student at a local school; there is no indication that he had recently moved in interstate commerce, and there is no requirement that his possession of the firearm have any concrete tie to interstate commerce. To uphold the Government's contention that 922(q) is justified because firearms possession in a local school zone does indeed substantially affect interstate commerce would require this Court to pile inference upon inference in a manner that would bid fair to convert congressional Commerce Clause authority to a general police power of the sort held only by the States.

Beloved Rehnquist delivered the opinion!

+1 Supreme Court!
 
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