North Dakota hunters beware

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The state has issued a premptorily inept, idiotic mandate to food banks in the state. If you are a hunter who donates your kill to local food banks be aware that the meat will be thrown in the dump and will never feed a hungry human being.

You may as well let it lie where the kill occurred rather than dragging it out to be buried in a landfill. At least it will nourish some of the wild creatures that feed on such carcasses that they might grow larger and stronger for next year's hunt when they are on the menu. They will likely be far more appreciative as well.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,446984,00.html

North Dakota Charity Program to Accept Only Archery-Killed Venison
Tuesday, November 04, 2008

BISMARCK, N.D. — A North Dakota program that distributes venison to the needy will accept only deer killed with arrows, fearing that firearm-shot meat may contain lead fragments.

"We're calling out to bow hunters to spend a little more time in the tree stand," said Ann Pollert, executive director of the North Dakota Community Action Partnership, which administers the Sportsmen Against Hunger Program.

Officials in North Dakota and other states have warned about eating venison killed with lead ammunition since the spring, when a physician conducting tests using a CT scanner found lead in samples of donated deer meat.

The findings led North Dakota's health department to order food pantries to throw out donated venison. Some groups that organize venison donations have called such actions premature and unsupported by science.

The North Dakota Community Action Partnership distributed 17,000 pounds of venison from 381 donated deer after last year's hunting season, a number that has tripled since the program began in North Dakota in 2004, Pollert said. At least 4,000 pounds of venison were in food pantries in the state when the health department issued its warning, she said.

Pollert said her group had been waiting on findings from the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, which has been studying potential health risks for people who eat venison killed with high-velocity ammunition.

The results of the federal study were expected last month but have been delayed. North Dakota's deer season opens Friday.

"We had to make a decision," Pollert said.

A draft report has been completed but it has not been releaserved [sic].
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Field butcher and skin and cut it into hunks... Most dogs will eat it! I have 10-15 (can't remember zackly) dogs and all will eat raw meat, minus most seafood. This includes a Chihuahua, a chihuahua/pomeranian cross, pit crosses, and curr dogs.
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This was a carhit deer a dog of mine found suffering in the woods. As you see even a young pup will eat the venison...
Brent
 
NOPE!!! The Chi/Pom cross is Mrs.Hogdogs baby. The teacup Chi is my little girls baby for many many years... Hey did you know the pre-sweetened koolaid makes for a cool colored mohawk? Momma really liked that one!
Brent
 
why don't they tell the people that there may be lead in the meat and have them sign a waiver if they want the meat? I wander how many families are not going to eat because of that stupidity? get me an email address to email these half wits maybe I can get them to just have the families sign a waiver to take shot meat.
 
Scoob, Good luck with that... let us know how that goes:D You are dealing with some of the hardest heads... Entitlement welfare leaders are not likely to budge. In many places the deer must be PROFESSIONALLY cut and wrapped complete with labels. I prefer to hand the meat directly to the needy family. This year I have been networking to locate NUMEROUS freezers with a hole in them. I will kill as many deer as I can find and the folks have been told to eat all they need, just leave me some. I figure it is a worthy trade off as we are all in a bind 'round here and I could never help out with cash, and can't afford a nice big deep freezer for myself.
Brent
 
If you will look at the original date of this thread I believe that everything stated there has been recinded. Please correct me if I am wrong.
 
here is a copy of what I emailed them:
I am emailing you in reference to an story I read being reposted on a forum I frequent. here is the story: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,446984,00.html. The story is about your organization's refusal to take shot deer meat. Well it seems to me all that would have to be done really is to have the people that wish to take the meat that has been shot is to sign a waiver excepting the risk. Keep track of the meat that was shot and pass out a waiver if they want it. I am not to sure why this was not done in the first place to tell you the truth. I mean the people are coming to you for help. I am sure they would be willing to take a minimal risk to feed their family. I know this was in no way your doing but I think your organization kind of freaked out for no reason. I mean millions of people a year eat shot deer, elk, and other game, and that has been going on for the last century or so. there clearly has been no epidemic of people dieing for eating a
small piece of lead or copper, let alone serious health problems. Anyhow I am asking you to please pass this on to somebody that has the power to change this silly policy, and hopefully has a little common sense to institute it. I would like a return email when a decision has been made. Thank you

Leonard Bryson


I'll let you guys know what I hear back. If I get some sorry blah blah blah email back I will be sure to email the local media a copy of the emails and see what they have to say. I am sure they would be interested in an organization that is supposed to be giving away food is throwing away good food for no good reason.
 
If you depend on the government to distribute your charity, well, this is what you get. I suppose you could contact local churches and see if they have any needy members that would take the meat.
 
North Dakota hunters beware
The state has issued a premptorily inept, idiotic mandate to food banks in the state. If you are a hunter who donates your kill to local food banks be aware that the meat will be thrown in the dump and will never feed a hungry human being.
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You mean, if you are a firearm hunter who donates...

Archery hunter donations are obviously very welcome.
 
bitmap: If you depend on the government to distribute your charity, well, this is what you get. I suppose you could contact local churches and see if they have any needy members that would take the meat.

geez man show a little heart....I mean sometimes people just need a little help. maybe someday when you are old and broke and can't work (thanks SSI) you need help too.
 
Bitmap wasn't knockin' charity at all. He was simply pointing out the ineffectiveness of government controlled welfare operations...
Brent
 
The real losers in this game are the "underprivileged folks" (insert any other PC term here).:mad: I read in a hunting magazine (sorry, I cannot remember which one, its been a few months), that an investigation into the original claims of lead tainted meat from shot animals was instigated by a liberal politico and the sample provided consisted of "some shreds of meat and some lead fragments". Guess what happens when you test lead fragments for lead?:confused: You find lead!:eek:

The downside is state agencies will err to the conservative side and just ban the meat vs having to deal with the prospect of litigation later on behalf of those who will claim to have suffered some l"ead-based poisoning." Although you and I know better, our common-sense will be ignored and relegated to the category of hype sourced from backwoods hillbillies (and yes, my neck tends to be red on many occasions) and therefore not fit for consideration.

Lets hope I am wrong on this point and common sense (as we know it) will prevail. With recent events, I won't hold my breath...
 
Before I start, I want to say that I support charities that I deem good, and feeding the hungry is a good cause, IMO.

But, when I hunt, I hunt for more than the sport. I want the results of the hunt as well, whether that be healthy lean meat, or a prime hide.

I've been eating the game meat from my hunting since I started way back when, and it hasn't bothered me a bit. In fact, one day my doctor told me that he's like to tell me to not eat red meat, but that the red meat I was eating wasn't hurting me a bit. This came after some tests that found my cholesterol level in the low 90's, and a cardio-catheterization that showed my arteries being clean as can be.

I'm diabetic, and I eat a lot of meat, so I'm more prone than most others to such things, yet my arteries and such have no problems. My doctor attributes this directly to the fact that I eat mostly game meat. Any lead in my body has never been found to be excessive.

If the food banks want to be picky, so be it. I'd suggest that if you can't or won't use the meat, either find someone who wants it before you hunt, or stay home.

IMO it's a sad thing to leave an animal to waste.

Daryl
 
Yeah, the ruling appears to be seriously poorly thought out. I guess that if even the meat from around the impact area of a bullet is also thrown into the meat grinder, there could be lead in some of the meat.

Normal processing? Nope, sorry, BS.
 
a simple piece of paper that is signed solves any legal worries. a judge would throw a case out of court most likely. "did you sign this paper saying that you are aware of the risks and accept them?" and the answer would be yes and the judge would tell them quit wasting his time and dismiss the case.
 
This is what the Missouri Department of conservation had to say on the subject this year.

http://mdc.mo.gov/cgi-bin/news/news_search.cgi?item=1221842978,44563,

It still seems to come down to the processor and how the meat was treated ultimately (quote from linked article above).

The issue of venison contamination by lead bullets surfaced last fall, when tests of meat in North Dakota’s charitable venison donation program showed lead fragments in more than half of donated ground venison that they tested from food banks.

Following this news, Minnesota tested samples of donated venison and found lead fragments in one-quarter of them. Contamination levels varied widely depending on which processor provided the samples. Three-quarters of samples from one processor had lead particles, while some other processors’ samples showed no lead.

In expanded testing, Minnesota officials collected 1,239 samples from 39 processors. Twenty-two percent showed lead contamination. Ground venison had a much higher contamination rate than whole cuts of meat, where only 2 percent of samples were found to contain lead fragments.
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