North American Union. Is this a real threat or Tinfoil BS

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The Bush Administration covers-up the "North American Union" plot against Canada

Myths, Facts - Truth?

by Tom DeWeese, Special Guest Columnist

"Conspiracy theories" "Fringe nuts" "Lies" "Myths" These are the words being used by officials of the Bush Administration and others, to brand those who have reported on the activities of the Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America (SPP), currently operating out of the U.S. Department of Commerce. Opponents have charged that the SPP will result in the establishment of a North American Union, much on the same lines as the European Union.

In response to its critics, the SPP has added a "SPP Myths vs. Facts" section to its website at www.SPP.gov. According to the "Myths vs. Facts" document the SPP is simply a "dialogue" among the three countries to "enhance prosperity". It goes on to say the SPP is not an agreement, nor is it a treaty. It says "no agreement was ever signed."

The truth is, on March 23, 2005, President Bush met at his ranch in Crawford, Texas with Vicente Fox and Paul Martin (then PM of Canada) in what they called a Summit. The three heads of state then drove to Baylor University in Waco, where they issued a press release announcing their signing of an agreement to form the Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America (SPP).

This year, on March 31, 2006, Bush. Fox and new Canadian PM, Stephen Harper met in Cancun, Mexico. This time their press release celebrated what they called the first anniversary of the SPP.

The use of the word "dialogue" is a carefully selected euphemism designed to make the SPP sound like an innocent discussion among friends. To admit that it is anything more would force the government to provide Constitutional justification for its actions.

Moreover, the SPP says it won't change our court system or legislative process, and that it respects the sovereignty of each nation. And, says the SPP Myths and Facts document, it strongly rejects the idea that it is creating a European Union-like structure.

That defence is almost laughable in light of the massive activity-taking place in the SPP office located in the Commerce Department.

First one must know that the European Union was also originally sold to the nations on the European continent as simply a trade and security framework. The idea, said proponents, was to create an economic structure to allow a combined European economy to compete with the United States and other economic powerhouses. Only a few years later nations were told they needed a common currency to provide seamless trade. At the same time, the working groups organizing the EU policy, began to morph into what today has become a European Union parliament, which now is working to create a means of taxation, regulation of commerce and a court system.

Now, in offices buried in the bureaucratic structures of the United States, Canada and Mexico, twenty "working groups" are hard at work writing policy initiatives for the SPP, covering a wide range of issues including, the manufacture and movement of goods across the borders of the three North American nations: creating a common energy policy and common environmental regulations over the three nations; regulating E-commerce and information communications and technologies; establishing financial services, including loan policy and foreign aid policy; overseeing business facilitation, creating the rules under which businesses will operate in the three nations; establishing food and agriculture policy; and overseeing transportation and health policy.

These policy directives will infringe on every aspect of our lives. Can anyone seriously accept the Administration's explanation that nothing really important is going on here? That this is only a friendly discussion taking place? That nothing will change in the way our government operates? If that were so, then why are we doing it? Why are so much time, money and energy being taken up in an effort that means nothing? The answer, of course, is that a lot is going on.

It's no accident that the SPP is working out of the NAFTA office of the Department of Commerce. The North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) was the precursor to the Security and Prosperity Partnership. According to investigative journalist, Jerome Corsi, a key part of the SPP plan is to expand the NAFTA tribunals into a North American Union court system.

Under Chapter 11 of the NAFTA Agreement, a tribunal conducts a behind closed-doors "trial" to decide the cases dealing with how state and federal laws may damage NAFTA business. If NAFTA investors believe state or federal laws damage their NAFTA businesses, under the tribunal the investor may sue the government and taxpayers will foot the bill. The NAFTA tribunal decision trumps the U.S. courts, all the way to the Supreme Court. Yet, the Bush Administration insists the SPP will have no effect on our court system.

The SPP says it is a myth that Congress is not involved or supportive of its actions. The truth is, to date, there has been no legislation passed by Congress to permit its actions. No taxpayer funds have been appropriated. One "hearing" was held in Senator Richard Lugar's Senate Foreign Relations Committee. It was a friendly affair with friendly "dialog." No tough questions were asked. No one was held accountable for his or het actions.

Meanwhile, members of Congress are beginning to become aware of the SPP activities at the Commerce Department. Representative Tom Tancredo (R-Colo.) is demanding the Bush Administration fully disclose the activities of the SPP, which he says, has no authorization from Congress.

Specifically, Tancredo wants to know the membership of the SPP working groups. To date, no one knows who is involved, or is performing the work to create the policies of the SPP. Geri Word, who heads the SPP office told World Net Daily that the work has not been disclosed because "We did not want to get the contact people of the working groups distracted by calls from the public." Yet the SPP denies it is working in secret.

Additional congressional reaction has come from Senator John Cornyn (R-TX). He had introduced a bill, "The North American Investment Act" (S.3622). Incredibly the bill contains near exact language from the book by Robert Pastor entitled "Toward a North American Community." Pastor's book is largely considered to be the blue print for the creation of the North American Union. Much of the contents of the book later appeared in a report from the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) entitled "Building a North American Community." That report was issued just a week before the Summit in Waco.

However, once these facts were demonstrated to Senator Cornyn, he immediately took efforts to assure S.3622 would not be voted on in the Senate. His spokesman stated that Senator Cornyn "is adamantly opposed to any 'North American Union' being formed like the EU had been formed in Europe." Regardless of how the Administration spins it, there is no congressional authorization for SPP actions or spending.

The SPP denies that it is planning to create a unique currency some have called the "Amero." However, on April 6, 2006, the SPP announced the formation of the Financial Services Working Group. According to its own news release, the Financial Group will focus on "enhancing processes for addressing banking, securities, and insurance issues." It goes on to say, "U.S. financial regulatory agencies will play a critical role in the SPP."

In truth, the SPP is being put into place incrementally. It will take years before everything is in place. It took the European Union several years to create the Euro. However, the guiding documents from Dr. Pastor's book and the CFR report both call for the creation of a North American currency. It is obvious, if one dissects the double speak of the bureaucratic language of the SPP, in order for it to reach its goal to "reduce the cost of trade," "combat counterfeiting," and "facilitate trade" among three nations trying to act as one, the drive for a single currency will not be questioned.
 
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And finally, there is the issue of the NAFTA super highway. NAFTA was the first step in creating a North American Union. It was sold as a means to enhance trade among the North American nations. All were promised greater exports, better jobs and better wages. In truth, NAFTA is an unmitigated failure for all but a very few. The U.S. trade deficit has soared to almost $1 trillion per year; The U.S. has lost some 1.5 million jobs and real wages in both the U.S. and Mexico have fallen significantly. Yet, the agenda is set, and so our government presses on.

The latest objective, is the so-called "NAFTA super highway" on which construction is planned to begin next year. It would bisect Texas from its border with Mexico to Oklahoma. It will travel on to Kansas City where an "inland port" is now in the final planning stages.

Plans call for a ten lane, limited access highway to parallel I-35 It would have three lanes each way for passenger cars, two express lanes each way for trucks, rail lines both ways for people and freight, plus a utility corridor for oil and natural gas pipelines, electric towers, cables for communications and telephone lines. The highway will require the taking of more than 500,000 acres of private land and is estimated to displace a million Americans from their property. Eminent Domain will be the tool of choice for the massive land grab - now made easier by last year's Supreme Court ruling in the Kelo case.

The Kansas City Smart Port will be literally the first checkpoint on a highway that will run all the way from Columbia through the Hartland of the United States. Mexico will have a facility on the KC Smart Port site that it now insists will be Mexican sovereign land.

To make the NAFTA super highway reality, the borders of the three nations must disappear. Immigration will simply become "migration." Border laws cannot exist. "Harmonizing" of our societies is becoming the catch phrase.

The SPP says its purpose is to guarantee security and prosperity for the three nations. The NAFTA model has already proven there will be no prosperity. The NAFTA super highway is proof there can be no security as we pave the way for more illegals to flood the nation, as truckloads of illegal drugs fly up the highway and terrorists just hitch a ride.

The United States is the most unique nation on earth. We were created out of a radical idea that free people, with their freedoms protected by the government would be happy and prosper beyond imagination. The idea worked. Now, the Bush Administration is ignoring this historic fact to "harmonize" us with Canada and especially Mexico, which is not a free country; has no property and has just proved its unworthiness of conducting free and fair elections. At risk are our culture, our wealth, and the once proud American way of life.

Americans must now understand that the battle to stop the North American Union is the last stand for a free and independent United States. That's not a "Myth" it's the truth.

http://www.agoracosmopolitan.com/home/Frontpage/2006/09/21/01229.html


http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=52063



Ok, I have been hearing about this, news site, other forums. What is your take on this. I do not know what to make of it. Real or BS? That is the ?
 
Wildcard, it's not BS. Anybody that disputes it hasn't done the research or they're willfully ignorant. Lou Dobbs did a story about it 07/03/06 stating it would completely undermine the Constitution and destroy the sovereignty of the US. CNN pulled it from their archives. Other articles are below, Google will turn up more.:(

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=14965
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/arti...5/132429.shtml
http://canada.usembassy.gov/content/...can union"
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=52074

badbob
 
They don't need to build a NAFTA "superhighway". It already exists, and it's called I-35. At least in this country, it is THE path for goods coming by land from Mexico and places south. I've mentioned before having lived in Austin when NAFTA became law, and I can tell you that I-35 became an utter nightmare for Austinites because of it. What Austin has done is to build an I-35 bypass, but it's so residents can actually use the highway that goes through the middle of their own city to, oh, get to downtown, to the University, up to Round Rock, down to San Marcos and San Antonio, without being run over by rattletrap trucks from south of the border.

I don't know if it's BS. But I'm too old at this point to dismiss it. I would have sworn that the EU would NEVER have happened (and of course, not every country in Europe goes along: England is still on the pound, and a couple of the countries Youngest Son visited this summer had their own currency as well). But how long will they be able to hold out economically?

I have to say, it would explain a whole lot about Bush's utter disregard for our border security to the south.... :barf: :mad:

Springmom
 
Oh, it is quite real. There is just too much going on for this to be just a bureaucratic picnic. Corsi and Schlafly blew the first whistles. Since then others have piled on. Corsi filed a FOIA request to the federales to spring loose all the documents. He tried politely to get the relevant organizations to provide answers but was refused. He wanted to know who is on the committee, wanted to see the memos of understanding amongst US, Canada and Mexico, wanted a clear statement of what federal legislation authorized the ongoing work, etc. At first the request was ignored but eventually the federales started to comply. As I understand it there is a huge document dump going on.

I've been following this thing in detail since the Waco meeting in March 2005 IIRC. I'm impressed with complete blackout by the media of all stripes. At this point only a few researchers and talkshows have exposed it. Google up "talk SPP "north american union" and you'll find a number of radio shows with relevant interviews.

Here is a site that explains the genesis of the initiative from the Mexican perspective. Best I can figure Bush came into office planning something like this related to NAFTA but the 911 events provided the opportunity to move faster and quieter outside NAFTA.
http://americas.irc-online.org/am/386

I'm convinced it is real and ongoing and is known and approved by congress.
"Treason" is a word that keeps coming to mind.
 
Clowns to the north of me, jokers to the south

Hm. Canada: socialist. Mexico: socialist.

Somehow, the thought of being in a consortium in which our socioeconomic system is outnumbered 2:1 doesn't exactly give me the warm fuzzies.
 
These treaties are not Constitutional

Globalization is the end to National Sovereignty and our Constitution. That's why they don't have to listen or do what the people want anymore. Corporate rule. Gov Perry has pushed this agenda, for toll roads in Texas and a 1200 ft wide Trans Texas Corridor. Towns are fighting it, vote em out.
 
Blame it on "liberal" news media??

Lou Dobbs did a story about it 07/03/06 stating it would completely undermine the Constitution and destroy the sovereignty of the US. CNN pulled it from their archives.

The idea that it's the "Democrat" or "Republican" fault is stupid, they are the same party. Why is everyone surprised the Republicans are pro globalization? Has everyone fallen asleep to the idea that big business works within both parties? Conservative thinking indeed, too many people spend too much time egging on the other party to realize that both parties are in fact in the wrong. Sometimes I wonder what stops the American people from reclaiming their government.


Epyon
 
It's good to finally see this getting attention at any level. Unfortunately if you try and discuss this with the Usual Suspects(Joe Sixpack, et al) you'll get a blank look and then a dismissal as a kook. It's just too big to assimilate for most people who can't even define the issues that make them vote for any specific candidate or Party...

But hey, at least we do live in Interesting Times.
 
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