I have a Norinco 213 (9mm Lugar)which is visually in very good shape. The problem is in the firing, after 6 or 7 rounds the casing doesn't eject completely and jams the slide partly open to the point where I have to return home from the range to free it up.( I have only fired two magazines, different ones, through it and then same thing happened, at the same point, with both) Holding the extractor back with a small screwdriver and tapping the slide with a non-marring hammer (a circus act if you ever saw it happen) is the only way I can free it up. Does anyone have any ideas what can be done to solve this. The casing gets gets stuck in the chamber, whether it is partially ejected and jambed back in or doesn't eject at all I can't tell. The chamber and barrel are clean and polished and snap-caps cycle perfectly every time the slide is run with them. Any one have any ideas??? The pistol is ultra-sonicly cleaned and lubricated and quality gun oil was used. I also have a TT-33C (7.62 x 25) that functions perfectly, are there any parts I can swap just to determine what's wrong?
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Norinco 213
- Thread starter SCOUT638
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Make a mandrel and lap the thing....
You said that the casing gets stuck in the chamber. How tight is the chamber?
I had the same problem in two pistols, a Mod. 213 (like yours) and a CZ 52. In both, a shell would sometimes get stuck tightly in the chamber and it always took a lot of work to unjam them when it happened. With the 213, it was a regularly recurring issue with different brands of 9MM. Of my two CZ52s, only one gave me this problem and then only with Rumanian surplus ammo. It worked fine with all other ammo but, since I had bought quite a few spam cans' full, I figured it'd be best to re-work the chamber rather than limiting myself and the gun to shooting only expensive, newly made commercial ammo.
Anyway, I took an empty shell and drilled out the primer hole a bit so I could pass a long, thin screw screw through, leaving the head inside the case. I then put a nut on it to keep it from slipping, giving me a perfect mandrel. I coated the shell with some finely abrasive valve lapping compound and spun it in the chambers with a drill. After doing that, they've been flawless performers. The CZ52, btw, still cycles any and all other ammo perfectly.
I saved the cases that stuck the tightest to use as a gauge. I merely lapped the chamber until they fit nicely.
Note: Spend the extra five cents on the nut and screw and specify grade 8; grade 8 is much stiffer and will let you use a bit more pressure. A lock washer under the screw head keeps it from loosening while in use. Most importantly, use a very fine grit, go gradually and check often. One shouldn't remove too much or you may create other issues.
You said that the casing gets stuck in the chamber. How tight is the chamber?
I had the same problem in two pistols, a Mod. 213 (like yours) and a CZ 52. In both, a shell would sometimes get stuck tightly in the chamber and it always took a lot of work to unjam them when it happened. With the 213, it was a regularly recurring issue with different brands of 9MM. Of my two CZ52s, only one gave me this problem and then only with Rumanian surplus ammo. It worked fine with all other ammo but, since I had bought quite a few spam cans' full, I figured it'd be best to re-work the chamber rather than limiting myself and the gun to shooting only expensive, newly made commercial ammo.
Anyway, I took an empty shell and drilled out the primer hole a bit so I could pass a long, thin screw screw through, leaving the head inside the case. I then put a nut on it to keep it from slipping, giving me a perfect mandrel. I coated the shell with some finely abrasive valve lapping compound and spun it in the chambers with a drill. After doing that, they've been flawless performers. The CZ52, btw, still cycles any and all other ammo perfectly.
I saved the cases that stuck the tightest to use as a gauge. I merely lapped the chamber until they fit nicely.
Note: Spend the extra five cents on the nut and screw and specify grade 8; grade 8 is much stiffer and will let you use a bit more pressure. A lock washer under the screw head keeps it from loosening while in use. Most importantly, use a very fine grit, go gradually and check often. One shouldn't remove too much or you may create other issues.
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Norinko 213
Thanks I will try that. I was only using new manufacture name brand ammo but the weapon looks like it has only been fired a few times, it looks almost mint. (Maybe the original owner experienced the problem and rarely fired it) The shell and the lapping compound is extremely doable. One other note, when I free up the slide the casing falls right out, so it's not jammed in, but something is jamming the slide.
Thanks I will try that. I was only using new manufacture name brand ammo but the weapon looks like it has only been fired a few times, it looks almost mint. (Maybe the original owner experienced the problem and rarely fired it) The shell and the lapping compound is extremely doable. One other note, when I free up the slide the casing falls right out, so it's not jammed in, but something is jamming the slide.