Non Profit Org Question (this might make you sick)

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Arnistador

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I already know the answer to this, but why is it that universities like Johns Hopkins and Boston University, funded by federal and state tax dollars, can participate in thinly veiled anti-gun political action?

For example, I get propaganda from an organization called "Join Together" which helps organize and sponsor the Million Moron March and "Firearms Safety and Consumer Protection Act" which would give even more power to ATF to control firearms manufacture in the US.

Here's a direct quote from one of their mailers:

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Wouldn't the Second Amendment prohibit this kind of regulation? No, the Second Amendment would not prhibit this kind of regulation. The purpose of the Second Amendment is to guarantee the states' ability to maintain independent state militias that are available to be called upon if our country's security is threatened. The possession of firearms by individuals is not part of the right to keep and bear arms. Moreover, the Supreme Court has never struck down a gun control measure as unconstitutional under the Second Amendment. The federal government is clearly free to regulate the possession and transfer of firearms in order to promote public safety.[/quote]

To voice you displeasure, visit www.jointogether.com and send them a polite, but firm note on your view of their actions. Also, call the sponsors of the "Firearms Safety and Consumer Protection Act" at 202-387-6121.

Tim
http://www.streetpro.com
Street Smart Professional Equipment
 
I'm waiting for someone to start a non profit group called

Criminals for Gun Control

and march side by side during the Million Mom March and other Anti-Gun activities.

That would get the message across quite nicely - Have about 100 burly tattooed biker types marching next to the soccer moms, a sleazy criminal defense laywer type speaking about how dangerous it is for the members of CFGC to do their jobs when there people can buy guns so easily...

See if that gets on the news.

Spark

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Spark, do you mean something like the following?

Criminals For The Prevention Of Firearms Ownership

http://www.members.tripod.com/~NoGuns4U

They are awaiting your call to join up. They will even deliver your membership items in person. :D

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Ne Conjuge Nobiscum
"If there be treachery, let there be jehad!"

[This message has been edited by Jim V (edited August 11, 2000).]

[This message has been edited by Jim V (edited August 11, 2000).]
 
Spark I think most of the biker types are on our side.Most are victims of media just like we are.
I have riden with many so called outlaw bikers and most are people you can depend on and trust.Can you say that about the media or our goverment?

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Bob--- Age and deceit will overcome youth and speed.
I'm old and deceitful.
 
Jim - exactly, but without such a garbled acronym... maybe some clever soul can come up with a catchy word-turned-acronym that would embody the concept...

beemerb - I apologize if you misunderstand my "biker type" comment as a slur against all bikers, everywhere.

What I meant to convey is have a number of the "criminal" representatives present that would play to the worst fears of the mommies, Dems, and Liberals (much less any decent citizens) - you know, Gang Bangers, Chollos, Klukkers, Aryans, Mafioso's, etc - all coming out for gun control because they aren't safe... you get the picture.

Spark

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Kevin Jon Schlossberg
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I just sent them a long winded message about how mislead they are. I wrote it diplomatically though so don't worry :)

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I twist the facts until they tell the truth. -Some intellectual sadist

The Bill of Rights is a document of brilliance, a document of wisdom, and it is the ultimate law, spoken or not, for the very concept of a society that holds liberty above the desire for ever greater power. -Me
 
Hey, they know that what they say does not even conform to supreme court decisions about what the 2nd Amendment says, and that it is just dis-information they espouse. I.E., wishful thinking for them, BUT that which can and does influence the 'socker-mom' crowd types. Hitler never had it as easy...
 
I liked the good ol' days when organizations stating their positions concerned themselves with facts. Today, they just throw out a lie assuming no one will call them on it. Even a cursory reading of literature of the period showed the founding fathers were paranoid over tyranny by the gov't and wanted to provide some means for Everyman to fight it.
 
Still, this part is true:

"Moreover, the Supreme Court has never struck down a gun control measure as unconstitutional under the Second Amendment."

This has to change.
 
"We have at this time, the largest body of armed men under heaven"
Thomas Paine in Common Sense 1776

Kinda refutes a lot of static put out by those people don't it? These were individuals not government, as if we could maybe remember that at that time (Spring of '76) "the Government" was King George, and the authors were private citizens in rebellion against their government.
I also liked hearing about the guy who went through the probates and wills of people back then, and discovered that most people didn't own guns. What crap. I think it could be that by the time a fella was old enough to think of his mortality, he probably didn't wait around. Especially since the old back then were not able to avail themselves of the Opthamologist. What good is a firearm to a blind man when he can give it to his son who will use it to feed his family and his parents? They probably had already passed the firearms down by the time the barrister came to draw up a will. Of all the guns passed down in our family, not one has ever been listed on a will or other legal document. The one thing missing today in academia is logic. It has simply vanished. Spock, where are you?
 
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