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Non-FFL gun sale
- Thread starter Oatka
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"Yellow" form isn't needed for a sale between private individuals. An exception might be rules put in place by the show promoter. Even then, I'm not sure what would be done with the form, after the sale.
If there is any doubt, you may want to ask for proof of age.
Just use common sense, and get a good price.
Good Luck...
Joe
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If there is any doubt, you may want to ask for proof of age.
Just use common sense, and get a good price.
Good Luck...
Joe
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Go NRA
Paul Revere
New member
Our local shows require private individuals with tables at their shows to follow all State firearms laws (waiting periods). That means at the show, the seller and buyer exchange information and FOID numbers (hey, its Illinois), and usually some sort of deposit is held by the seller. There isn't any requirement for a background check or completing the national registration form (yellow BATF) between private sellers. The seller can technically only transfer the firearm to the buyer after the waiting period (24 hrs. for a long gun, 72 hrs for a handgun). At that point the buyer and seller meet somewhere mutually agreed upon and make the final exchange...balance due gets paid, and buyer takes firearm possession.
Some shows here even provide a two part form for this exchange of information between buyer and seller. It's becoming rare to see gun show attendees (without a table) here in Illinois making private to private transactions. In fact, the gun show promoters are getting very nasty about that.
Most gun shows that I've been to outside of Illinois are much friendlier with private sales, whether they're table sales or attendee sales. Most are cash and carry transactions between law abiding show attendees, without any paperwork required.
Personally, I've had enough of the red tape at our local gun shows. Promoters are beginning to make gunowners feel intimidated by all of the attention they've gotten. Making announcements over the intercoms, passing out restrictions which aren't even applicable to State or Federal law. In addition, prices here have climbed beyond reasonable. Shows are over crowded, and people seem tense. Conversations between people in parking areas are quickly dispersed by gun show police, as if some major arms transactions are going down.
It's all becoming a big joke as more people take interest in buying a gun make their way to these shows, and find themselves strangled by the promoters self-protectionism.
Some shows here even provide a two part form for this exchange of information between buyer and seller. It's becoming rare to see gun show attendees (without a table) here in Illinois making private to private transactions. In fact, the gun show promoters are getting very nasty about that.
Most gun shows that I've been to outside of Illinois are much friendlier with private sales, whether they're table sales or attendee sales. Most are cash and carry transactions between law abiding show attendees, without any paperwork required.
Personally, I've had enough of the red tape at our local gun shows. Promoters are beginning to make gunowners feel intimidated by all of the attention they've gotten. Making announcements over the intercoms, passing out restrictions which aren't even applicable to State or Federal law. In addition, prices here have climbed beyond reasonable. Shows are over crowded, and people seem tense. Conversations between people in parking areas are quickly dispersed by gun show police, as if some major arms transactions are going down.
It's all becoming a big joke as more people take interest in buying a gun make their way to these shows, and find themselves strangled by the promoters self-protectionism.
Thanks, gentlemen. We're luckier out here in the West (Utah, Nevada).
The comments on high prices rings a bell. Gun prices are getting ridiculous. Guns that
were crap in the 60s remain crap, yet they have taken on a collectors' aura and price -- "They ain't made anymore" seems to be the only criteria, not workmanship. Even 22s are going wild. The only interesting ones left are the Roumanians.
Mow, I usually just go mostly to get ammo as there are still good deals there.
The comments on high prices rings a bell. Gun prices are getting ridiculous. Guns that
were crap in the 60s remain crap, yet they have taken on a collectors' aura and price -- "They ain't made anymore" seems to be the only criteria, not workmanship. Even 22s are going wild. The only interesting ones left are the Roumanians.
Mow, I usually just go mostly to get ammo as there are still good deals there.