No polymer guns lock battery correctly??

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So I'm at the Gun store, and I'm playing with the Steyr M40, and I play around, and I pull the slide back, hit the slide release, and it doesn't lock up all the way. I try it again. Same thing, try it again, same thing. That freaked me out!!! The guy behind the counter says "That's what happens to all polymer guns, the Glock instructions even say that you should tap the back to make it lock up correctly."

1) Does the Glock manual actually recommend that???

2) Is it just with the Steyr's?
3) Does this happen to Glocks and HK's?
4) Just that one steyr???

Help! This is SERIOUSLY bothering me...

Albert
 
Um, if this is indicative of the wisdom he dispenses, then I'd avoid his advice like the plague. Besides, since polymer has a 'memory', by his logic you'd have more problems on aluminum- or steel-frame pistols since those frames wouldn't return to true if flexed. This guy sounds basically qualified to operate the cash register and should cease dispensing dubious pearls of wisdom before he embarrasses himself...

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I dont know about the Steyr, But my polymer sig dont have any problems going into battery. And ive never seen a glock or HK with this problem. Maybe its because u let the slide down too slow and it didnt have the momentum to go all the way foward. Maybe the lubricant they pack the gun with was dense, maybe the gun needs break in. Who knows?

I wouldnt be messin wit no stire anyway !

JMO

Tim :)

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Why dont you get rid of that nickel plated sissy pistol and get yourself a glock. :::Tommy Lee Jones:::
 
Ditto, Ditto, Ditto...If a weapon( any ) does not go into batter it it FUBAR.
( got that from Saving Private Ryan )
(we had the snafu saying in 'nam )
 
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This guy sounds basically qualified to operate the cash register and should cease dispensing dubious pearls of wisdom before he embarrasses himself...[/quote]


Oops, it's too late! What a clown. You would think that one of the other sales clerks would have heard this and slapped him back into this world.
 
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"That's what happens to all polymer guns, the Glock instructions even say that you should tap the back to make it lock up correctly."
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:rolleyes:
 
If the sales clerk did actually acknowledge failure to lock-up as a problem (which it most definitely is), what chance would he or she have to sell you that pistol which is now identified as defective?
 
I have discovered that there is a new breed of urban gun store clerks who simply do not know what they are talking about. They have the basic knowledge or the ability to convince other urban warriors that they are indeed great gun gurue's. They work at those shops that overprice everything, but have everything you would ever want. They also have a new indoor firing range and if you want to try out that new Glock 30, you must pay at least $20 for a conditional membership fee, then $10 per hour to shoot, and you must shoot their ammunition.

I find these places are good places to go look at what you might want to buy first hand, then you mail order it from a much better source. How do I know this? They listed that Remington 700 VS as $725 (before taxes and fees) and if I owned firearms, which I don't [BATF is watching ;)] I would have got one for $710 out the door from a smaller local dealer. I urge much caution at these urban dealers. They are dealing with a different breed and act accordingly.
 
Those were my thoughts exactly. I stared at the guy, who was SERIOUSLY pressuring me to buy a Glock 19. Whatever. I was thinking, if the Steyr they had was "defective" and they are still trying to sell it, then this is what makes the gun community look bad, no?

Also, I'm thinking with the amount of Glocks, HK's, SigPros, And SW Sigmas on the street, this CAN'T be the case!

I did end up pushing the slide back into battery, and it felt like there was "gum" in there, so I think it's the packing and shipping stuff they ship the guns out with. The gun was sticky as hell internally, I'm thinking that's on purpose.

Thanks you guys for easing my doubts...

Albert
 
The stuff the manufacture uses for lube is to prevent corrosian while it sits on the shelf. It is thicker but I wouldn't think enough to prevent slide motion. I shot my new Glock 30 out of the box and it worked fine. Find better dealer. With the internet and places like GT and TFL for information, opinionated dealers will become extinct.

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Live long and defend yourself!
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Einstein probably was eating his lunch at the counter while showing it to someone and spilled Coca-Cola on it, then just wiped it down and never bothered field stripping it to clean the internals.

Just a SWAG. (Scientific Wild-A** Guess)

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"..but never ever Fear. Fear is for the enemy. Fear and Bullets."
10mm: It's not the size of the Dawg in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog!
 
twoblink:

It's just the Steyr. I have one that does the same thing if you attempt to ease the slide closed. However, when droping the slide closed on a full mag it has yet to fail to go into battery. I am sending this gun back to GSI for trigger work and breech modifications and I'll request that they look into the battery issue.

I currently own an HK and I've owned Glocks none of which had problems with going fully into battery. Gunstore gurus, go figure.
 
As previously posted by unknown #s of TFLers:

Ask for a break in the price to take the 'defective' gun off his hands.

Identify the problem (could be factory gunk, need of stronger aftermarket spring, etc...).

See what the dumbass says...
 
One of the top gun salesmen I ever ran across knew very little about guns. But he was a salesman. A good salesman can sell anything - today it's guns, tomorrow it's refrigerators, next day it's ladies underwear.

A salesman doesn't care; he will learn just enough to BS the customer (who will usually know less) and make the sale. One thing I noticed was that he never argued with a customer. If some idiot said he was going elephant hunting and wanted a .25 automatic, the salesman would sell the .25.

I once got into trouble with the boss when a customer wanted to buy a 30" barrel for his shotgun, since he couldn't hit any ducks with a 28". He asked me what I thought the 30" would do for him. I told him it would put the end of his barrel 2 inches closer to the duck.

The boss was ticked off, saying I should sell the customer what he wanted and keep my opinions to myself. So I never made a good salesman.

Jim
 
I have three polymer frame guns,
Walther P99, Ruger P95, and a Glock 26.
I have never had a problem such as you described with any of my guns.
But, as a precaution, I re-read my Glock manual. It says nothing about "tapping the back" to make it lock up properly.
This dweeb is feeding you a load of BULL!!!!!
The Styer is probably defective.

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That is B/S.I have a G21,G35,and a p99.None of these weapons have a problem locking into battery.All these guns have numerous rounds through them and they function perfectly.Dont listen to anything that salesman has to say.
 
Maybe at that gunstore they have that problem because they let customers slam close the slides on empty chambers. :rolleyes:
 
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