No gun rhetoric in Oregon
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NJgunowner
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Actually he wants to define what constitutes "in the business of selling guns" and make people who sell some imaginary number (he hasn't said what yet) do background checks and get licensed.
kilimanjaro
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He's crossed the line in some places, but not with his political base.
Look for the 'one gun a month' mantra to assert itself in defining what makes a private seller into a dealer, or some variation on that. Let's hope it isn't one gun a year, or five in any five year period, something like that.
Look for the 'one gun a month' mantra to assert itself in defining what makes a private seller into a dealer, or some variation on that. Let's hope it isn't one gun a year, or five in any five year period, something like that.
Glenn E. Meyer
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It was nice to see on the major news shows that there was push back in Oregon to Obama's agenda. That's why he probably didn't bring it up. Arguing with a community of loss would seem rude.
I saw a victim's dad and a victim say that if there were guns there, the toll would be less. Horrors - heresy - victims want to fight.
I saw a victim's dad and a victim say that if there were guns there, the toll would be less. Horrors - heresy - victims want to fight.
News showed quite a few protesters telling Obama he was not wanted in Roseburg. The publisher of the local newspaper stated officials did not want Obamas visit. He stated Obama wanted to come and stand on the victims corpses to make a political statement. Quite a different picture than other communities that have had such tragedies.
A pause for the COZ
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It depends what news you watch.
If you watch the Lib media. Just a small blurb.
If you watch Fox they interviewed the protesters.
I am in the camp of. Dont wait for him and then react. Our side should be proactive and make him defend.
If you watch the Lib media. Just a small blurb.
If you watch Fox they interviewed the protesters.
I am in the camp of. Dont wait for him and then react. Our side should be proactive and make him defend.
CNN's coverage has been odd. When the President gave his speech, they covered it quite a bit and asked if it would help get new laws passed.
Then a few locals in Oregon started pushing back. By dinner the next evening, they were getting really quiet about the President's trip there. I saw nothing about it in the major media today.
Anderson Cooper booked a couple whose brother was a victim. He seemed blindsided when they told him they didn't support gun control, and neither did the rest of the community.
I think the President's speechifying may have woken a few people up to just how callous his treatment of the issue has been.
Then a few locals in Oregon started pushing back. By dinner the next evening, they were getting really quiet about the President's trip there. I saw nothing about it in the major media today.
Anderson Cooper booked a couple whose brother was a victim. He seemed blindsided when they told him they didn't support gun control, and neither did the rest of the community.
I think the President's speechifying may have woken a few people up to just how callous his treatment of the issue has been.
Glenn E. Meyer
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NBC news had a substantial lead story with Lester Holt.
Tom Servo said:
http://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-n...ers_in_roseburg_declare.html#incart_big-photo
Welcome to the real Oregon....
the only blue part of the state is Mult Co. which, unfortunately, out votes the rest of Oregon. We don’t want Obama's gun control here but the politics have been bought and paid for by Bloomberg and shoved down our throats... its left a bad taste. Roseburg sits in Douglass Co. where a recent effort to recall Sen. Prozanski, the one who shoved UBCs on us this year... without allowing us to vote on it, was unethically thwarted by only a couple hundred votes, counted by our anti gun SOS.... draw your own conclusions. I find it interesting to see finally a line drawn in the sand in the fight for gun rights in the wake of such a tragedy.
After the family meeting in Roseburg, Obama said the country will have to "figure out how we stop things like this from happening."
But he added, "Today is about the families, their grief and the love we feel for them."
Having retired from UCC I know a lot of people who were in lock down, either in their offices or classrooms, in buildings throughout the campus including Snyder Hall.
Considering the firepower available the number of victims could have been much higher.
But he added, "Today is about the families, their grief and the love we feel for them."
Having retired from UCC I know a lot of people who were in lock down, either in their offices or classrooms, in buildings throughout the campus including Snyder Hall.
Considering the firepower available the number of victims could have been much higher.
kilimanjaro
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I'm glad he finally got respectful to the families and community instead of using the bodies of the dead for partisan political purposes as he has been doing all week.
A photo from Breitbart.
Article.
http://www.breitbart.com/big-govern...regon-protests-obama-visit-chicago-needs-you/
A photo fro MSN.
Article.
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/ob...-gun-violence/ar-AAfidyc?li=AAa0dzB&ocid=iehp
Article.
http://www.breitbart.com/big-govern...regon-protests-obama-visit-chicago-needs-you/
A photo fro MSN.
Article.
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/ob...-gun-violence/ar-AAfidyc?li=AAa0dzB&ocid=iehp
Even in southern WA reports of the protesters seem subdued.
The area of OR and WA have quietly been the targets of the gun control lobby(in a way) . A lot of media attention is pointed at Texas, which I find odd because I'm a Texas native. Texas has not been the gun nut state that has been stereotyped as. TX was quite restrictive until recent years.
The PACNW is the most gun loving culture there is that I've seen up till now. Somehow these UBC laws are getting rammed past the voters
The area of OR and WA have quietly been the targets of the gun control lobby(in a way) . A lot of media attention is pointed at Texas, which I find odd because I'm a Texas native. Texas has not been the gun nut state that has been stereotyped as. TX was quite restrictive until recent years.
The PACNW is the most gun loving culture there is that I've seen up till now. Somehow these UBC laws are getting rammed past the voters
http://www.oregonlive.com/politics/index.ssf/2015/10/obamas_public_comments_in_rose.html
I don't think he means to be figuring out how to improve our mental health care in America.
No, but it's telling that he didn't make explicit mention of gun control.
That's a long way from name-checking the UK and Australia, claiming that the gun culture is irresponsible, or asking people to become single-issue voters on gun control.
I am wondering if somebody took him aside after last Thursday's speech and told him to tone it down.