NJ Legislation: Ammo Illegal

cabbit10

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Anyone hear about the new bill they are trying to pass in NJ that would render possession of ammunition Illegal except for Purchase Permit, licensed hunter, FFl or Law enforcement officer?

Apparently the bill would prevent anyone from out of state from traveling through NJ with Ammo, even if following Federal guidelines and make it illegal for NJ residents to purchase ammo from mail order/online stores.
 
Yes, its real

Star ledger:

http://www.nj.com/search/index.ssf?/base/news-3/1148362730317610.xml?starledger?nnj&coll=1

17 bills trained on reining in gun violence
Republicans charge legislation will hurt gun lovers, not gangs
Tuesday, May 23, 2006
BY RICK HEPP
Star-Ledger Staff
A sweeping package of 17 bills aimed at quelling gun violence passed the state Assembly yesterday despite protests from Republicans concerned the legislation does more to crack down on gun enthusiasts than gang members.

"Criminal street gangs have become an epidemic across our state," said Assembly Majority Leader Bonnie Watson Coleman (D-Mercer), a sponsor of the package. "They are destroying neighborhoods. They are terrorizing residents. They are engaging in crime, violence, and general depravity. Most alarmingly of all, they are corrupting our children."

The package of bills is intended to prevent gun violence, protect witnesses and bolster police powers. New Jersey is home to more than 17,000 gang members and last year, authorities filed about 1,900 criminal cases involving gun violence.

The proposals range from toughening criminal sentences to establishing gang violence prevention seminars for educators and employment programs for disadvantaged youngsters.

Republicans, however, said bills in the package that stiffen penalties for firearms possession and regulate the sale of ammunition are overly broad and shortsighted. They attempted to amend the controversial bills and have them sent back to committee, but in each case the majority Democrats voted against them.

Republicans said legislation intended to increase prison terms for those convicted of possessing illegal assault weapons or transferring firearms to youths could unwittingly put someone with an unregistered pellet gun or a father who buys a BB gun for his child behind bars.

"This is overkill," said Assemblyman Richard A. Merkt (R-Morris). "I would support this bill if it were directed at gangland activity."

Republicans also objected to a bill that would allow authorities to seize vehicles in which officers discover illegal weapons, and another that would regulate the sale of ammunition. They argued that the brunt of enforcement would fall, not on gang members, but on gun enthusiasts who don't have all the right permits or who buy ammunition out of state.

"My sense is these criminals fail to follow the law," said Assemblyman Guy R. Gregg (R-Morris). "You will be with this legislation creating criminals of people who did nothing wrong."

Merkt also wanted to amend a bill that would have the Attorney General's Office track the history of firearms recovered from crime scenes. Merkt's amendment would require authorities to distinguish between guns purchased legally and those obtained illegally, but it was quashed.

Assemblyman William Payne (D-Essex) said the package of bills is needed as a whole to staunch the rise of gangs in New Jersey.

"The streets are running with blood from teenagers being shot by drive-bys," Payne said. "We need to look at ways to stop guns at their source. We need to stop guns from entering our areas."

Payne's district includes much of Newark, a city where 18 teenagers have been killed by gunfire in the past 18 months.

Watson Coleman said after the voting session that a number of bills could be amended before they reach the state Senate to address concerns raised by Republicans.

"It was our decision to move this legislation forward," she said. "There's going to be cleanup. We'll consider and look at those and perhaps you'll see some of it come out at the Senate."

Larry Farrell of Gun Owners of New Jersey, called the package of bills a "grandstanding" effort by Democrats who want to look tough on crime.

"They're determined to go and do something to make a blurb in the news," Farrell said in a telephone interview. "None of these bills are needed. (Registered gun owners) just have more hurdles to jump through to exercise their right to self defense."



Rick Hepp covers criminal justice. He may be reached at rhepp@starledger.com or (609) 989-0398.
 
there is a certain online business that sells ammo out of NJ. Guess if this passes I won't be driving up to buy anything there anymore. I don't like the wait from shipping, thats why I drive.

Last time I went I was going to buy some AR mags, but couldn't, because they aren't legal to posess in that state apparently. I could pay for them, and he'd ship them to me, but I couldn't take posession in NJ, he said. :barf:

So glad I live in VA, and have been buying more & more from my local dealer.
 
What business is that?

I need to find someone I can get bulk stuff from as well as hard to find stuff like .475 linebaugh.
 
Ammo Purchase

Great deals can be had through AMMOMAN.COM located in Berlin. NJ. They cannot ship to you if you live in NJ. All shipping is out of state only. Prices are posted on the website. However retail sales are available and the prices are evn cheaper if you pick it up there. Hours are odd and are on the website. They are sometimes open at "off hours" by appointment.
 
More Penn-Jersey Interstate commerce

People from PA/Philly drive over to Jersey to get booze and gas, and people from Jersey will drive over to buy ammo. Unfortunately tihs proposed bill will have no effect other than inconviencing law abiding citizens.
 
Has any one thought to pass legislation to make being in a street gang a felony? Oh yeah, that would violate their rights.:barf:
 
why dont they go to where the crimes are being committed and clean those places up rather than attacking legal gun owners in the entire state?

they should also pass a law that makes it a felony to be an idiot and initiate garbage antigun legislation that will not affect violance at its source but rather incriminate legal gun owners and further restrict legal use of firearms.

DOH?..criminals dont care if its illegal or not.
 
All part of the plan

It is all part of the plan. Pass a law that bans ammo except for licensed people. So, you need a bueaucracy to investigate/issue/maintain records (which the applicant has to pay for) and when the gangs get ammo anyway (and you know they will) you can cry that the problem is the surrounding states, where the gangs buy their ammo (or steal it), instead of the real problem, which is the politicians and the courts not letting the police clean up the criminals and keep them in jail.
It is a win/win for the anti gun crowd. They get more state intrusion into citizens lives, a restriction on lawful shooters, and an excuse to push for more laws in the surrounding states!
 
and there you go.....why the alphabit boys are setting up stings and going farther than is acceptable because neighboring states with ridiculous gunlaws cant figure out why crime isnt going down, one after another ridiculous gunlaw is put on the books.


instead of combating the underlying problem as the cause, these intellectuals would rather control every aspect of gun ownership,rattle their sabers at private gun owners and otherwise give the criminals that are doing the things..an advantage.

they need to clean house there and start cleaning up the areas that has the problems.someone once said that if its broke,the same solution obviously doesnt work.
 
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