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I'm new to this site and this forum. So far I have found it highly informative.

I have yet another question about the Walther P99. I'm getting ready to buy a P99 and am trying to decide between the standard DA/SA trigger and the QA trigger. I have only handled and fired the DA/SA trigger.

I'm interested in comparisons and recommendations on the two trigger systems from some of the knowledgeable people on this forum. My interest is mainly for carrying and home defense. I'm wondering if the QA trigger is too short or "touchy" for my purposes.

Sorry if this is an old topic, but my searches turned up lots of discussions on the P99 in general, but not much on the specific differences between the two trigger systems.

Thanks,
SJP
 
Hello- Welcome to the Forum, I prefer the DA/SA setup for HD and carry......not that the QA is really touchy, its just nice to have the DA/SA for multiple tasks. Good luck.
 
I have a P99QA in .40

The trigger pull is 6-6.5lbs. (check the web site for stats)

It's not too light if you are worried about that. It also has a trigger safety built in if pressure is applied to the side of the trigger instead of the front of the trigger its not suppose to shoot.

If you like the Glock type trigger then go with the Quick Action. If you like DA/SA, then go that way.
 
welcome to TFL. as the owner of a p-99 myself, i highly recommend the standard da/sa setup. i have found it to be the best functioning setup. i recommend going to www.waltherusa.net and checking out what Earl has to offer.


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Welcome to the forum cobra!

I have the 9mm in DA/SA. The trigger is so smooth on the DA stroke and the reset so quick on the SA stroke that I don't even notice the often discussed transition between the two.

It makes an excellent carry gun and I highly recommend it.
 
The QA trigger is much like a Glock trigger. If you feel comfortable with that then the QA will do fine. If you have reservations about the Glock trigger then the standard DA/SA would be best for you.
 
Thanks

Thanks for all the input.

After hearing from people with both trigger styles, I guess I'll just have to buy one of each!
 
Cobra, I'm new to the sport, and also a new P99 owner, but there's something you might want to consider.

I think the P99 is like the Glock, in that if you have a 'tougher' primer or debris interferes, so that the striker doesn't impact all the way, the DA trigger gives you another opportunity to fire the round. My understanding of the QA and Glocks, if a shot doesn't get off, you have to rack the slide again.

The nice thing about the Walther is that with the regular P99 DA/SA trigger, you can leave it either way. Rack the slide, and decock, or pull the trigger back to set to SA.

My impression is that you have more choices with the P99 'regular' than the QA.
 
I have both styles. Right now I'm the QA exclusively mainly because I've noticed that on long shots (25 meters) I do better with the short pull of the QA and with the follow up shots as well.

One thing I have to dispute is with what Rovert has said about a bad primer. If your in a desperate situation and you pull the trigger and nothing happens, you need to ask yourself "Am I willing to take a chance on this round again". Conventional tactical wisdom would say no. You want to get that round out as fast as possible. That is why most all training schools teach you that "tap and rack". Make sure your magzine is well seated by "tapping" (more like hitting) it and then racking the slide to get the bad round (whether jammed, stovepiped or non fired) out. I'm not willing to bet my life on "second stike capabilities".

While the "second strike capability" is true on the regular P99, I believe the DA concept for auto pistols was developed to mimick that of a revolver. Meaning you had first strike capabilities like a revolver, with out unneccecary safeties to block trigger/hammer movement (ala 1911), but with follow up SA capabilities that are prefered in an auto handgun.

So to answer the original question, I have to ask a question. What do you prefer?

P99
 
I have always been confortable with the "glock-style" trigger pull. And I see a real advantage to consistant trigger pulls from first-to-last shot.

That being said, except for lots of competition shooting, I've never been in a high-stress situation where my trigger discipline has been tested. I see the advantage of the long forgiving first DA pull in tense situations where I would feel a little jumpy.

I guess I can't help but remember one time in an action pistol match where I had a AD because of a damaged sear/trigger fit on my 1911. That feeling of the gun discharging when you weren't expecting it is a sick feeling. I would hate to have that same feeling if confronting by an intruder in my house late at night.

So I'll probably buy the standard P99 just to be safe.

Thanks for all the input.

SJP
 
One of the selling point of the Glock when it first came out was a short SA like trigger pull. For my P99 9mm My preferred trigger mode is SA. Draw slide and release to load pistol. Slowly pull trigger back till it 'clicks'. Trigger is now locked in SA. The 'long SA' is not that bad either and is somewhat safer in that you don't pull a trigger on a loaded gun. Draw slide and release when loading. The trigger is now in the forward position and is VERY light. A small amount of pressure sets the 'click' into the SA postion. Actually it's probably safer to just do this and 'click' into the SA position during the presentation. From this 'click' a considerable distance and pressure is required to consciously fire the pistol. I find the trigger on my P99 to be about 4-5 pounds in the SA mode and it smoothed out incredibly after only 250 rounds.

The only better triggers I've come across belong to my 1911 and my custom BHP.
 
Actually, I would like my p99 to have the double action pull on every shot. It's a little more consistant and is still pretty light. The single action stroke is light, but has a breat point that you don't sense with the double action pull.
 
P99, I wasn't thinking in those terms, but you're right. I'm new to this whole thing, and what I shared was mentioned by the fellas at my range, from a target perspective. My thinking, however, is that it never hurts to have the choice between a second trigger pull, and racking the slide. If you check for Wild Romanian's post on reliability of striker fired guns in the forum here, he brings up a few different conditions that give the P99 a bit of an advantage. It seems that his conclusions aren't supported by all the members here, though. :D

Cobra, you came to the same conclusion that I did. Where safety is concerned, or in a tense defensive situation, it's nice to have that extra travel... just in case. :eek:

I think you'll like this gun a LOT. I'm just now getting the hang of it, and practicing hold, breathing, and whatnot, and this puppy is just consistent, and accurate, as all getout.
 
If you check for Wild Romanian's post on reliability of striker fired guns in the forum here, he brings up a few different conditions that give the P99 a bit of an advantage. It seems that his conclusions aren't supported by all the members here, though.
Click to expand...

Actually his conclusions aren't supported by any real evidence.
The only "fact" he proved was that he's a crappy reloader. JUNK SCIENCE :barf:
 
I haven't yet live fired a P-99 but after handling lots of different 9mm pistols, I've found it fits my hand the best of anything I've tried. Second running was a Glock 19 but it was a distant second. Everything about the P-99 has just felt "right" for me. It's almost like they built the thing for me personally. Me and my damn champagne tastes. ; ) Now, I have to wait until I can find a reasonable deal on a used one, which may apparently take some time. I believe it will be worth it though.
 
Rovert,

I'm glad to see you taking an intrest in the shooting sports! And yes your right, if your just target shooting the second strike capability is great. But if and when you get to the point of serious self defense, don't count on a second strike capability.

I'm glad to see you like your P99. As my screen name fortells, I'm a big P99 fan also(heck I've got 6). Of course I'm a big Walther fan in general.

P99
 
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