Newbie - Gunbroker ethics question.

JoeKC

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I'm new to The Firing Line, but not new to enjoying firearms, and am interested in how others feel about a practice I've encountered on Gunbrokers auction site....

A little background first. I normally try to support one of my LGSs when making a firearm purchase, but have been known to look elsewhere. This is particularly true if I'm looking for old, unique or simply hard to find.

Recently I began looking for a Kadet adaptor for a CZ75B. They have been in short supply, and my local sources tell me even CZ-USA personnel are not sure when they will have a new supply. In fact the rumor locally (I live 10-15 miles of the CZ-USA headquarters) is that the Kadet kits could be backordered for some time.

Given the availability challenges, I thought I'd see if I could find a kit in someone's inventory, or even a used kit on Gunbroker. After a quick search, I hit the jackpot when a couple of kits were offered via buy-it-now auctions. Not so... After asking specifics about availability, it became clear these sellers had no inventory, nor could they get access to a kit through their distributors. Instead, they knowingly were listing kits for sale in an attempt to book a future sale when the kits became available again....

I get it that guns can be available for sale locally and on Gunbroker, and that can present a challenge if the dealer doesn't get the listing pulled quickly after a local sale. This situation is different, and in my opinion, is deceitful, reprehensible and borderline fraudulent. Why doesn't Gunbroker clean up these games? What a complete waste of my time dealing with these two hucksters. In one case the seller suggested that buyers should call to check availability (alluding to the different situation described above), but in the other case there was nothing to suggest the kit was not available.

Before getting too aggressive with Gunbroker, I would be very interested in opinions of those that routinely sell (and buy) on Gunbroker. Am I missing something?
 
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Unless it is stated clearly in the ad that the item will be ordered once you buy, I think it borders on the dishonest.

I've run into this on several occasions (not just on gunbroker) and I look elsewhere. Sometimes I find it, sometimes I do not. I always order from the person who has the best feedback and has clearly stated the item is back ordered and will be shipped as soon as they get it.
 
I think that I've dealt w/ one of the dealers you're referring to, though not for a Kadet. If it's the guy that I'm thinking of, that's him M.O.. You can Google his username and find similar complaints.

And you're right, it's unethical. He's hoping to trick people into executing payment for an item that he doesn't possess.

That said, I've never been burnt when buying on GB. But I tend to buy older guns from members with multiple sales and good feedback. In my experience, the established dealers are fine to deal with - maybe a little irascible, but they're honest.

There are a few Kadets currently listed on GunAuction.com ( was AuctionArms ). Also you could try posting a WTB here or on the CZForum.
 
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