newbie advice: revolver vs. semi-auto

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Hello allI just purchased my first gun(S & W 22A) 2 months ago. i am looking for a new gun under $500. I want to shoot IDPA matches and possibly carry occasionally. I am interested in 9mm .40 or .38sp Please give me some suggestions oon what you might look at or where to start. Thanks
 
9mm is a good deal cheaper than .40S&W. A Glock 17 or Smith & Wesson M&P9 would be high quality 9mms that would work well for both carry and range.

In a revolver, a 3 or 4-inch 686. The 3-inch would be better for carry, and the 4-inch for range.

Hopefully someone with IDPA or other practical pistol competition experience will chime in on their regulations, which I am only vaguely aware of.
 
A Glock 17 or Smith & Wesson M&P9 would be high quality 9mms that would work well for both carry and range.

While I agree they're stellar 9mms, I suggested the G19 because the G17 (and other full-size service autos) are really too large for most folks to conceal.
 
Thanks for all the help. Does anyone have any online sources for these guns that are not either sold out or extremely over priced
 
Are all of these guns obtainable for $500

Absolutely. I even recommend you buy used, as resale value will be exactly what you paid for it.

Hey, if you can just go rent a few and see what you like. Also consult with the range officer/gun shop owner to find out if they are IDPA 'legal' as many handguns don't qualify.
 
Go rent a few at a range and see what you like. I love my S&W M&P9, that doesn't mean you will though.

When I bought the M&P9 i was $550 new and I got a $50 mail in rebate AND a mail in form for two extra free magazines. So I got the gun, four magazines, cable lock, case, and the three grips for $500.
 
Guns are a lot like shoes - what fits me very well might be a big pain for you. Got to a range where you can rent various guns and try a bunch of different ones, or to a range like the one I belong to, where folks are happy to have newbies try their guns out.
 
Let me add something in favor of the wheelgun.

In ANY auto, you're supposed to buy 200 (or more if you want) rounds of quality defensive ammo and shoot it, to make sure it feeds reliably in that gun.

If it doesn't, you either pick another round and start over, or you try and tune the gun to be less ammo-picky with better magazines, feed ramp polish or whatever...and then shoot another 200.

The fact is, damned few people carrying an auto on the street have it loaded with a round they've done that testing with. OK? They either can't afford that much primo ammo (good stuff is a buck a shot or more) or they don't have the time/patience to do it right. Or they're carrying some new cool bullet and haven't tested it thoroughly yet.

OK? Basically, they're risking jams in a fight. Not good.

If there's a chance you're going to be one of those people, do yourself a favor and get a good revolver. Because they lack feed ramps, and don't use the round's mechanical energy to cycle the gun, they'll eat anything. Want to switch bullet types as often as most folks launder their sheets? Cool - have fun. Want to stagger rounds so that the first two are, say, good 38+P rounds at 250ft/lbs energy, the next three are potent 357s at 600ft/lbs energy and the last one is an 800ft/lb monster load from hell? No problemo.

The gun won't care.

I went shooting last weekend with a couple of friends who are into "tacticool" stuff...Kahr 45, Glock 40, Baby Eagle 9mm, etc. Watched 'em suffer jams now and again. Pinked away all day with my 357 and 22lr "matched set" of similar guns with zero issues. That's normal among people who are NOT "pros" (which included all three of us!).

If you have the money and time to do it RIGHT, by all means get into autos. But it will cost more in money and time to get a fully reliable setup.
 
In ANY auto, you're supposed to buy 200 (or more if you want) rounds of quality defensive ammo and shoot it

With all due respect, I disagree that such a high round count is necessary. Two-hundred seems to be largely an arbitrary number generated by some gun writer. If my guns feed 500+ rounds of practice ammo without a hiccup, and also feed 50 rounds of my carry ammo without a hiccup, why should I be terribly concerned that it suddenly will in the next 150 of my carry ammo? I don't think you need to automatically (pardon the pun) doubt an auto unless you have a reason to (such as it jamming with plinking ammo occaisonally like with your friends).
 
IDPA

I just strated IDPA shooting after getting out of 45 acp action shooting years ago. My weapon is a revolver out of preference. The IDPA stock service revoler makes good sense.

Tuesday night I acutually out shoot several auto in drills with my 2 1/2" 686 using speedloaders. Not trying to brag but the other guys don't shoot enough spend to much time watching action movies
 
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Tuesday night I acutually out shoot several auto in drills with my 2 1/2" 686 using speedloaders. Not trying to brag but the other guys don't shoot enough spend to much time watching action movies
I agree. I just started doing 'action-shoots' at my local range. They are not regulated, so its pretty much competing agianst myself, as I see it. Anyway, I took my Glock 36 carry gun through it, for some SD practice, ended up outshooting plenty of guys with tuned up rigs and all kinds of money in their equipment. Their 1911's with compensators, red-dots, porting, weights, etc.... none of it helped as much as knowing how to shoot. :o

Ok, enough bragging. The point is, guns =/= skill. Get what gun you are comfortable with and practice, practice, practice.

Edit: By the way, there were still several guys who beat me, so I am by no means top dog on the course. Yet... :-)
 
agreement

Great Mahoo sayed it right. I had all the trick stuf on a 1911, 45 cal and it didn't help. Went back to the basic a revolver I like and several 100 rounds. I feel if you want to shoot competation check the rules and decide on the class you feel best with and get an allowable weapon.

On bragging I by no means mean to imply I out them all. Seen to my real shooter to every make such a comment-Thanks
 
If your primary purpose is to participate in IDPA matches with your anticipated purchase, you should consider that shooting the lower recoil 9mm versus the 40S&W should help you score better.
 
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