44 AMP said:
Just had an off the wall thought, so, a question for NY state residents that own T/C Contenders (or any other multicaliber pistols)..
When I lived in NY and had a permit, pistols were listed on the permit by make, caliber, barrel length and serial number. Never had a Contender back then, but now I got to wondering how they were listed on the permit, then, and/or now.
Do they list one caliber & barrel length only? Do they require an "amendment" or some other paperwork to cover each different barrel???
Are you at risk of arrest for having a pistol not on your permit if the permit says Ser#12345 .38 caliber and you've got a .44 barrel on it? Just curious....
Thanks...
When I got my NY permit back in '09 (Broome County), they had a whole mess of false information that they presented in a packet.
One being that if you moved out of state you were required to use an FFL to send your handguns to an FFL in the other state and have them do a transfer.
Another was that you had to register every barrel you got for guns like the Encore/Contender. The thing that really confused them was when I bought an Encore Pro Hunter with no barrel. The NY definition of a pistol (Penal Code 180.3c Definition of Firearms) includes barrel length... so an Encore with no barrel wasn't a pistol... but in order to put a pistol barrel on it, you had to have it registered on your permit, which required a caliber. They finally decided that they couldn't put it on my permit until I had a barrel to add for caliber.
Fact was, at the time (maybe still?), T/C had Pro Hunter frames labelled as not for sale in NY because of the requirement that all "pistols" sold in the state had a fired case that could be sent to the state police. Since a frame had no barrel and no fired case, they wouldn't sell one. I actually got EABco to call the State Police office that processed the cases after I talked to the officer in charge there and he agreed that the Pro Hunter frame was not a pistol and did not require that a fired case be sent in.
EABco changed their policy because of that call and sold me the gun.
Anyway, the claim that the caliber had to be listed was really never true, as a matter of law, on a state level, nor even in most counties (including Broome when they said it was).
The variance between the way the counties handle permits in NY is amazing and there's actually almost no "real" rules, except the state rule that a permit is required. Some counties have "coupons" you can get before you even buy a gun, you just give the dealer the coupon and take the gun home, and then you have like 30 days to add the gun to your permit. Other counties, you had to buy the gun, get the info, go to the county, add the gun to your permit, get the paperwork, go back to the dealer and pick it up.