New Winchester 1300 Defender Owner

U.F.O.

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I just had to have at least one long-gun to put in my new Heritage Gun Safe. Couple of Q's if anyone could help?

1) What choke do these shotgun's come stock with. I didn't see anything listed in the paperwork with the gun.

2) Is there anywhere here (TFL) or on the internet that would provide detailed takedown and cleaning instructions for this specific weapon? The Winchester booklet that came with the 1300 was a generic, poorly written set of instructions that I couldn't navigate with a GPS. Thanks!

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Anyone have any input? Also, does it do any harm to the mag spring or hammer to keep this SG fully loaded 7 + 1 all the time. Thx.

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I don't think I would choose one of the new Winchester 1300 shotguns. They have a vital part that used to be metal but now it's made out of plastic. I've seen them come in for repair several times and it's a pain to get the replacement part. My dealer/gunsmith will not stock them and will not recommend them to people.
 
You can get online owner's manuals from Winchester's web site, or here:
http://www.stevespages.com/page7b.htm

Keeping the gun FULLY loaded depends on you.
Most people keep their gun in "cruiser ready" condition. That is, the magazine fully loaded, the chamber empty, hammer down.

All that's needed is to pump the fore end to chamber a round.
This is the preferred method, since it's safer and doesn't leave the action springs under tension.
Most modern guns like you Winny will not have hammer spring problems even if left cocked, but should be checked periodically.

Leaving the magazine loaded has two cautions:
First many, or most magazine springs will loose at least some tension over time if fully loaded.

The "fix" is to download the magazine by one round.
If you have a 7 round magazine, put only 6 rounds in it.
The reduction in tension goes a long way to prevent spring problems.

Another "fix" is to simply buy high-grade magazine springs and replace the spring once or twice a year.
Unloading the gun to "rest" the spring does NO good, since cycling a spring actually causes it to deteriorate faster.

The second big problem with leaving a shotgun magazine loaded is actually a BIGGER problem than any possible spring issues.

This is "shot shell compression".
Plastic shot shells tend to collapse under tension in a magazine.

What happens is, under spring pressure the plastic cases tend to collapse and develop bulges between the steel shell head and the shot column.

These bulges can cause failures to feed and extract.
This is quite common with plastic shells, and first appeared in police guns that were left loaded long term, when the plastic shells were introduced.

How fast and how bad the shells bulge varies, depending on the shells.
You should closely monitor your gun to see how fast the brand of shell you use develops bulges.

There are several "fixes" here.
The first is to simply shoot up the rounds every month or so.
Second, buy only high-grade American made shot shells, since foreign made and cheaper shells seem to be made of plastics that are less stiff and bulge faster.

"Resting" bulged shells does NOT do any good.
Once bulged, the shells stay bulged, and as soon as they are replaced in the magazine, they start bulging more.

When you find bulged shells, the best thing is to just use them for range practice.

Cleaning a pump gun is fairly simple.
The first and most important task is to THOROUGHLY clean both the bore AND the chamber.

Another "problem" with plastic cases is, they burn all lube from the chamber, and the chamber can rust if not properly cleaned and coated with a rust proofing lube.

Use a NEW bore brush or chamber cleaning brush and a good bore solvent to scrub the bore and chamber.
After scrubbing, wipe out with several solvent-soaked patches, dry, then closely inspect.

Check the bore and chamber for any "streaks" that indicate lead or plastic fouling. If you see any thing suspect, scrub more with brush and solvent until the entire bore and chamber is clean.

If you have a screw-in choke, use the wrench to remove it, and soak in solvent or choke cleaner solution until all carbon and lead and plastic fouling is gone.

Coat the bore, chamber, and choke with a good rust-proofing lube, and wipe out he excess.

To clean the action, disassemble per the instructions.
Brush out all plastic, metal debris, and burned powder particles.

Coat everything with a THIN coat of lubricant and reassemble.

Once a year, or more often depending on how much you shoot or the conditions the gun is used in:
Disassemble the magazine assembly and clean the inside of the magazine tube, the spring and follower.
Re-lube and reassemble.

Remove the trigger group and spray it DRIPPING wet with a good spray lube like Rem-Oil to blow out all fouling and foreign matter.

Shake off and allow to drain.
Wipe off the excess lube with cloths and an old tooth brush and reassemble.
 
Thx. willjr, but too late. I be's the proud owner of one Winchester 1300 Defender.

Gracias, Dfariswheel. I have much to learn about my new scattergun.

U.F.O.
 
The part shouldn't break unless you shoot it in cold weather. It's like the Mossberg plastic safety switch, it's fine when shot in warm weather but if it's shot in the cold, the safety will break.
 
metal replacement?

I don't yet own a 1300, but am seriously considering getting one this summer, so it's a good thing I read this. I have a couple things to ask:

1) What is this plastic part?

2) Are there metal replacements for it? If it's an important part, it might be a good idea to replace it to begin with and not worry about cold. For those who can manufacture, it could be an opportunity . . .
 
I'll be talking to my gunsmith alittle later today and I'll ask him. I'm really not too interested in shotguns with the exception of Benelli, Mossberg, and Remington.
 
It's called the Shell Tube Throat. I don't know of any metal replacement part. You would probably have to contact Winchester about a replacement part.
 
I have a Winchester 1300 Sporting Field. I have shot trap with it all winter long in sub zero weather and experienced no problems. I also have a Winchester Super SX that I just began shooting trap with.

I think you just purchased a fine HD weapon. Good Luck!
 
Mine is an older model, and I have had 0 problems with it. I can't speak for the newer ones, I didnt know there was a problem with them until now.
 
Just talked to my gunsmith and he says the "shell tube throat" issue with the Winchester 1300 Defender has not been an issue with these guns, from what he's seen, until they have been shot an "awful" lot and then not every gun has a problem. I asked him what an "awful" lot meant in rounds and he replied "many thousands". This plastic part in the magazine does have to be replaced on occasion in some guns and there is no metal replacement part available. You'd know the problem was apparent when shells would no longer stay in the magazine. I asked him if this was an issue I needed to be concerned about.....he said no.

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It's not a problem unless you're going to shoot it in very cold weather. The plastic Mossberg safety doesn't break unless the shotgun is being used in the cold weather.
 
Thx. willjr for bringing this to my attention. I feel better after checking it out. My 1300 Defender is strictly for use in home defense, so the cold/wear issues shouldn't come into play. I really do like the smoothness of the pump action of this gun. I've shot Remington pumps my whole life and do love a pump shotgun. Best.

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I've got a 1300 Turkey that works as a GREAT brush gun. often shot in sub zero weather with 100% relyability. If it were to dissappear... I'd buy another one just like it. I love it. Its a super fast pump that I believe can be shot as affectively as any auto. I was shopping for a defender but opted for the turkey and sacrificed a few inches of barrel length to get a choke system and a drilled and tapped for scope mounts barrel. I also can only load 5 rounds without a tube extension. I'm happy with it. I have no doubt you'll enjoy it. get out and practice!
 
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