New to me rifles much sooner than I anticipated

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kinoons

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I began collecting surplus rifles a few years ago. I began first with my M1 and have been adding to the collection ever since. I have obtained most of the sub $500 rifles I am interested in, so the rate in which I am collecting has slowed considerably over the last year or so.

A few weeks ago I came across an opportunity to own two of those over $500...well over $2000 rifles that was an exceptionally good deal. I figured it would be years before I could afford examples of these rifles, so some employee purchase stock program had to be let to. To be honest this stock from both my current and previous employer I had completely forgotten I even had, until I had to figure out how to afford these rifles.

I wont go into the specifics on purchase price, but I'll say that I could have easily have paid the price given for one of these rifles, not both.

Now that I have them, I am curious how I can assure they are genuine. I know the M1D is difficult to validate, and the research letter will be going out to the CMP on monday. How can I tell on the cheekpad, scope, mount, and flash hider? Same with the No4(T), anything specific I can look for?

http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/d...oons/No4T3.jpg

http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/d...oons/no4T2.jpg

http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/d...noons/M1d2.jpg

http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/d...inoons/M1d.jpg
 
MR Kinoons,
Dear Sir,
Congratulations on your purchase, But on the Stock Fund.
If its a 401K its best to leave it alone, but if you need money, borrow from it on a note, to pay yourself back. Most 401 K programs let you take out a loan. As you pay it back you pay yourself the interest.
But if you take out a withdrawl there is a manditory 33% Tax. that is taken out for early withdrawls.
 
Here are the pics:

No4T3.jpg


no4T2.jpg


M1d2.jpg


M1d.jpg


From: http://www.thecmp.org/forums/showthread.php?t=18729
 
Thanks for fixing my links. Also thanks for the concern with the 401k. We do have one of those, the stock in question that I sold was not connected with my 401k, but is insted a post tax employee stock purchase program, so no tax hit for selling early.
 
M1D

Here is one thing you can check on the D. ALL M1Ds have a 1952 barrel date.
Not '52 not a genuine D. That is one quick check you can do. others are a little harder to verify. Many fakes out there.

Jeff
 
As for the Lee-Enfield 4T Sniper, I've only read that the determination can be tricky and really subtle.

You might already have tried 'Surplusriifle', 'Gunboards' and 'Gunandgame'?

A guy whose very small shop I visited a year ago here in Memphis ("Phil's Guns"), had a near-mint 'Enfield Sniper'.
I have no idea whether it was originally built as an authentic 'Sniper' and he wanted $600 for it.
 
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On the No4(T) I can't see the tell tale marks from those photo's but what I do see appears to be a nicely restored (T) or an original in unissued condition.

Look for a "TR" on the left side of the butt socket, a "T" on the left side of the reviver, A "S" on the right side of receiver below the chamber. "S51" on the bottom of the butt stock. Scope # should be stamped on top of butt at wrist.

If the (T) is legit, in that condition it is worth a good sum, $3k+/-
 
For those interested there are additional pics in the CMP thread -- I'll avoid cross posting them in the interest of my sanity and saving time.
 
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