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MajorWhiteBoy

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i had a .22 from my sister for a while, loved shooting it, but i decided to get something with a little more bang for the buck, so i traded it in on a .40 s&w sigma and a charter .38 special. although i have to wait 6 days, i'm really excited about owning them and getting them to the range. i intend to get a concealed carry shortly, already completed the class. anyway, i just wanted a place to talk about guns, so i joined.
 
well, unfortunately they slapped the wait on me, so all i can post is stock pics, but it's not too bad...

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i'd definitely like to know more about them, but i won't even get to fire them till thursday. as far as training courses go, i'm not even sure what's available, but it would certainly be worth the time. like i said, i took the ccw course, but i didn't walk away with much more than i already knew except for some legal stuff and a bit of education about ammo. i'll have to look around.
 
well, i have them in my posession now. be heading to the range in a couple hours, looking forward to it to say the least. the trigger pull doesn't seem as bad as some said on the sigma, but i haven't fired it yet either, so i will reserve judgement.
 
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okay, i did a lot of research on these two models before i went to pick them up, and nothing i read told me anything close to my actual experience.

first up, my charter undercover .38 special. i thought this would be an easy gun to handle based on what i knew of it, but i had never fired a revolver or a 38. based on my inexperience, i decided i'd "warm up" with that gun.

i loaded it, pulled the hammer back, aimed, and.....

it felt like i stuck my face in a [sic]toaster. with the hammer back, it goes from zero to what-the-eff-ever in just under no seconds. i couldn't see a fooking thing over the flare, it shook everything i was in physical contact with...it's a dirty, visceral experience. i have absolutely no doubt it would put someone on their [butt], and someone not experienced with guns would think i had fired a mortar. and it is so dirty. i had black stuff all the way down both hands. the best i can describe it, is an "in your face" experience. from the hydra-shok ammo looking like a wasp nest to the unmistakable blast and fire of expelling a round, it's visual power. in short, i love it, but i will need a good long time to be good with it.

next up, the gun i think i won't ned to replace soon, my s&w sigma .40 cal...

from what i had read, i was expecting a less than stellar experience, a tough trigger, a hard time aiming, and massive recoil. not one of those was true. i started low, but i hit a bull with my first mag...

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nothing i thought about this gun was true. it fired like a dream. i was firing at a very rapid rate, not just because i wanted to show off, but because i was confident i'd hit the target. the only time i didn't hit it was here, firing the last twelve rounds i had. i put it at the back of the range (about 50 ft), and went for head shots. it won't take long before i nail that every time, but it was my first outing with this gun, and i only landed half the shots i fired, including one right through the center of the forehead...

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although i can't say enough good things about it, my sister said her fingers hurt all the way to her elbows and she's going to rethink buying a larger gun than a 9mm.

i was having a tough time choosing, so i bought a revolver and a semi. i'm glad i did. the five rounds go really fast, BUT....i had one misfire in the revolver, and i just shrugged and pulled again. it was my fault, but the "pardon" was a nice feeling (however, like i said, 5 rounds goes fast and i'm glad i have the semi).

i had a great time, and i'm totally pleased with both...and VERY much looking forward to hitting the range again.
 
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You have me wondering. How was the misfire in the revolver your fault? Be sure to put PLENTY more rounds down range before you rely on that revolver if it's giving you light strikes. This applies to both guns actually. Practice practice, practice

And welcome
Ben
 
i was hoping nobody would ask, but i somehow....i went over it in my head and i don't know how....loaded an empty shell in there.

That's good!

User error is always easier and cheaper to fix than hardware problems.

At least it isn't affecting your confidence regarding the gun.

Welcome, by the way.
 
first up, my charter undercover .38 special. i thought this would be an easy gun to handle based on what i knew of it... it felt like i stuck my face in a goddamn toaster... it's a dirty, visceral experience. i have absolutely no doubt it would put someone on their as$, and someone not experienced with guns would think i had fired a mortar. and it is so dirty. i had black stuff all the way down both hands. the best i can describe it, is an "in your face" experience.
A couple of thoughts:

If the gun is actually spitting good-sized particles at you, it probably needs to be returned to the factory for repair. It's normal for your hands to get a little dirty while firing a revolver due to the smoke that's expelled between the cylinder and forcing cone (that's the term for the cone-shaped area at the back end of the barrel). However, if it's throwing particles large enough that you can feel them hit you, the forcing cone is shaving the edge of the bullet. It's a sign of an improperly finished forcing cone or incorrect timing (i.e. the cylinder and the barrel aren't lining up properly). IIRC Charter offers a lifetime warranty to the original purchaser, so you should be able to call them and ask for instructions on how to return it to the factory if it's doing this.

OTOH small and lightweight revolvers in heavy-duty calibers are categorically hard to shoot well. Many n00bs seem to assume that they must be easy to shoot because they don't look very intimidating and may even look kind of cute. ;) This assumption is flat-out wrong. Unfortunately, I've seen many a gun-store clerk recommend these guns to n00bs. I just don't get it. Have these guys ever actually fired a hot .38Spl+P load from a 12-15 oz. gun? :rolleyes: Every time I've ever seen a n00b shooter fire a lightweight .38 snubby, their first trigger pull is followed by a 4-letter word. :eek:

Here's what I like to tell n00b revolver shooters. You have three choices:

Small, lightweight, and easy-to-carry gun
Powerful caliber
Mild recoil

Pick any two. No gun has all three.
 
it wasn't particles coming back at me, just force. i'm sure most folks would have known to expect that, but in all the conversations with various people, in all the research i did...

nobody ever mentioned what it was actually like to fire a revolver. looking at it, it makes sense. it just disperses the blast, where a semi rechanels the energy. i will be 100 percent sure to inform anyone who is in shoes similar to mine. sadly, i am a noob. 38's and revolvers took me by surprise. a pleasant surprise, but still...
 
i had a .22 from my sister for a while, loved shooting it, but i decided to get something with a little more bang for the buck,
welcome!
with ammo prices like they are .22 is were I get the bang for my buck;), I remeber the days, when a guy could afford to shoot surplus .223 all day:(
Glad to see your happy with your new sigma, I have not got a chance to try one yet.
 
i guess that was a bad choice of words. hell, i spent about 2 hundred bucks on ammo yesterday. i bought 280 rounds and fired 242 of them, leaving just enough for two full clips on my 40 and two wheels full on my 38.

the target ammo i bought was 20 bucks for 50 rounds in each caliber, and the defense ammo was 20 bucks for 20 rounds of 38 special and 25 bucks for 20 rounds of 40 sw.
 
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