First day I had several failures to fire. The slide would close, but not enough to push up the loaded chamber indicator and the gun would not fire. Rack the slide and fire the next round. Put the previous failed round back in and no fire. Is the chamber cut a little short or the case a little long? Too late to measure accurately as my buddy fired them all in his gun. Tore it all apart and did a thorough cleaning ( ya, should have done that in the first place) The situation improved, but I still had one to fail, then fired after reloading it. Short chamber? Just need to shoot it more? Only fired about 100 rounds through it.
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New Taurus PT111 G2
- Thread starter Hdonly
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Also, keep track of which magazines you are firing (I put a little piece of tape with a number written on it on the floor plate of each of my mags), and note when the failure occurs (first or second round in the mag, last round, things like that). A lot of the time you can trace issues like this to a bad mag or weakening mag spring.
I have a Ruger P89 that just really doesn't care what you put in it. It just shoots everything. I have never had a failure of any kind with it. A few thousand rounds through it. I hope the Tarus gets to that point cause I love the way the Taurus feels in my hand. Just a natural pointer.
brian33x51
New member
I've only had one failure on mine, and that was a limp wrist by my 14 yro daughter. Other than that its always been reliable. I've only run factory ammo in mine, winchester white box, aguila, IMI, remington...
I replaced the trigger with a 20usd one which took it from an okay pistol to a great one.
I replaced the trigger with a 20usd one which took it from an okay pistol to a great one.
I'd be interested in hearing what happens with the name brand ammo. "Factory" reloads to me just means "high volume" reloads. I know there are some companies whose volume is high enough to gain a reputation, but there are some others with quality control problems, too. At this point, I would be looking at the ammo harder than the pistol, myself.
From what I've been seeing of the problems that most people seem to be having with this pistol (other than user error like limp wristing and ammo issues) deals with failure to return to battery.
The impression I'm getting is that PT111 owners tend to not pay much attention to the slide safety lock mechanism.
This lock is essentially a threaded screw setup that may or may not be fully engaged or disengaged. If the lock is partially engaged, the slide can hang. In this condition, continued racking and firing can wear down the lock internally and the problem goes away. Many people never have any issue with it as the lock never gets engaged and stays fully disengaged. When this gun is bought new, it should come with a key for this safety lock but if bought used, that key might be missing. When buying the PT111 used, the buyer might not even know that there is any such thing.
This is IMHO the only real problem with this gun and I would consider it a design flaw. It just isn't so bad that it can't easily be overcome. Ya just have to know about it.
The impression I'm getting is that PT111 owners tend to not pay much attention to the slide safety lock mechanism.
This lock is essentially a threaded screw setup that may or may not be fully engaged or disengaged. If the lock is partially engaged, the slide can hang. In this condition, continued racking and firing can wear down the lock internally and the problem goes away. Many people never have any issue with it as the lock never gets engaged and stays fully disengaged. When this gun is bought new, it should come with a key for this safety lock but if bought used, that key might be missing. When buying the PT111 used, the buyer might not even know that there is any such thing.
This is IMHO the only real problem with this gun and I would consider it a design flaw. It just isn't so bad that it can't easily be overcome. Ya just have to know about it.
Prndll wrote:
This is IMHO the only real problem with this gun and I would consider it a design flaw.
I agree that the Taurus safety system is pretty much an unnecessary complication and you'll be happy to know that in the latest generation of the P111, it has been removed.
Hdonly wrote:
Commercial reloads.
The first time I take a new or new-to-me gun to the range, I shoot commercial ammunition through it. This is to eliminate my reloads as a potential cause if something goes wrong. After that, everything I shoot is what I have loaded myself.
In 40+ years of reloading, I have purchased less than 300 rounds of center-fire ammunition.
Tore it all apart and did a thorough cleaning ( ya, should have done that in the first place) The situation improved, but I still had one to fail, then fired after reloading it.
So, you first shot it without cleaning it after taking delivery of the gun? If so, I'd consider it a do-over from when you cleaned it and you only have had one bobble. Why? Taurus doesn't oil their gun, they use thick packing grease for transport. It is all the more important to thoroughly break down and clean your gun before you use it. So, anything you shot before doing this, don't count it. I say that as someone who used to be a big Taurus fan but has not been for a number of years now.
That said, if from a practical perspective you have one bobble, keep shooting it with different ammo types and see if you have any more problems. Once you have a few hundred trouble free rounds through it, you can probably trust it (the exact number seems to vary by the person). If I misunderstood and you cleaned it from the start, still do the same, but you may want to run more rounds through it before trusting it.
jetinteriorguy
New member
When I first got mine I had the same problem. It was my handloads, the bullets were seated too long. Compared to my other pistols it seems to have a shorter throat and is a little more finicky. Once I got that right it's been perfect.