New SIG P232 Jammed on 26th shot!!!!!!

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Therapydude

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Let me start by saying that I have a lot of faith in SIG products. I think they make an excellent line of firearms. However, I went shooting with my dad this morning to try out his brand new Sig P232 .380. Aside from any testing done at the factory, the gun had never been fired. Prior to firing, the gun had been disassembled (by me) and cleaned thoroughly to remove all factory cosmaline (sorry, I don't know how to spell cosmaline). I fired seven rounds, gun functioned flawlessly. My dad fired seven rounds, gun functioned flawlessly. I fired seven rounds, gun functioned flawlessly. My dad fired five rounds and it jammed. The brass from the fifth round cleared the action (wasn't a stovepipe jam), but the sixth round failed to feed properly (it was almost vertical). So, it jammed on the 26th round. Ammunition used was Winchester 95 grain FMJ target/plinking ammo. Anyone else had this problem with a Sig?
 
Therapydude,
I have never had a problem with any of my SIGS jamming. When I get a new semiauto (regardless of brand), the first thing I do is polish the feed ramp with a dremmel tool. Also, most feed problems are ammo or magazine induced.
 
Jams or failures in a new SIG are rare, but it happens. If it happens after you've shot about 200 rounds, then you have cause to be concerned. But failures like this that happen within the first box or two of ammo are not generally a cause for concern. There's a good chance it was the shooter...
 
I've never told this here before because most Sig owners will defend them to the death, much like I will my S&W's. ;)
I witnessed an officer once have to lightly "tap" the rear of the slide of his Sig to get it to fully go into battary and fire on every shot. Initially I thought it was probably due to a dirty gun (this guy was a dedicated gun enthusiast, unlike many fellow officers I worked with) or faulty ammo. However the problem persisted over the course of several weeks, icluding after it was sent back in for repairs. Quite simply the gun was junk! I realize that there is the occassional "lemon" from all the manufacturers but I personally would never trust my life a Sig.
No flame intended to Sig owners.

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Gunslinger

We live in a time in which attitudes and deeds once respected as courageous and honorable are now scorned as being antiquated and subversive.
 
I and my wife both experienced some misfeeds and failure to ejects in the first 200 rounds of our SIG .380's. Not a single problem since, even shooting cheap ammo out of dirty guns.

Also... forming an opinion about an entire brand based on one experience with one gun... Go figure...

--Rich

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Nothing threatens freedom so much as self rightous ignorance.
 
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Gunslinger:
... Quite simply the gun was junk! I realize that there is the occassional "lemon" from all the manufacturers but I personally would never trust my life a Sig.
No flame intended to Sig owners.
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I own SIGS, a Glock, a CZ-75, A Norinco, Star, several S&W, etc.

I like them all (or I'd get rid of them.)

My S&Ws and my SIGs have always worked as they should. My personal experience is that SIGs are one of the best guns, out of the box, available. That said, they do screw up, once in a while. The officer you cited in your original message should have had his head examined for even carrying a weapon that wouldn't go into battery. The problem there wasn't just the gun.

That was NOT a typical SIG.

Now tell us about S&W Sigmas... (grinning and ducking.)
 
I should have qualified my statement by saying that there is only one automatic that I would stake me life on and that is the 1911. There now I've managed to whiz off Glock owners to. :D
I've had a Smith fail due to a time weakened trigger return spring. For that reason I am now obsessive-compulsive about insuring that the trigger return springs in my Smiths are up to their proper strength.
I should have also qualified my original post by stating that I am an old fart and grew up on wheel guns, most notably single actions, and no auto "feels" good in my hand. As I have said here on TFL in the past I feel that one should carry the "most" gun they can use proficiently and feel confident and comfortable with. I "personaly" do not feel comfortable with an auto nor do "I" have confidence in them or my abilities with most of them.
Therapydude had asked simply had anyone else had this problem with a Sig and I was merely relating an experience I had had with one. I was not trying to offend anyones choice in weapons. (As a post script the officer had not started carrying the Sig yet. He was trying to get familiar with the gun when the problems reared there ugly head. He later traded the gun with the new owner having full knowledge of the problems and it was never carried as a duty weapon.)
But everyone must admit this one thing if nothing else. It is good to be back argueing which gun is good or not good instead or religious diffrences or whether we should have gay superhero comic books. :D :D :D :D
BTW Therapydude welcome to TFL if you are in the psychological therapy field and not the physical type I'd like to talk. I have a feeling by the time this thread dies I may be in need of your services. :D

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Gunslinger

We live in a time in which attitudes and deeds once respected as courageous and honorable are now scorned as being antiquated and subversive.
 
Hold on and dont get excited. Dont blast your Sig just one malfunction. A low powder shell that didnt function the gun completely could be the culprit. Check your mags, are there no metal burrs or un-uniform shaped mags. Give the gun time to work and wear in. Sigs are excellent guns, but like you said the ammo was cheaper grade stuff. Try some hotter stuff to break in the gun.

PS - Gunslinger, if you have a reliable, well made, and accurate S&W auto you should frame it as the only one in existance.
 
NEW guns in ANY brand can have problems. I wouldn't even worry about it until the gun has 500+ rounds through it. If you carry it and haven't shot it that much you need more practice with it. Amazing what a few hundred rounds through any new gun can do to smooth it up. The more you shoot them the smoother any gun gets. So if you want a smooth gun...............
 
Rob43, Smith & Wesson makes auto??? ;)

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Gunslinger

We live in a time in which attitudes and deeds once respected as courageous and honorable are now scorned as being antiquated and subversive.
 
Yes, I have experienced malfuntions in a new gun that have an excellent reputation. I felt bad at first but now that I have put more ammo though (closer to 300 rounds) now the gun cannot be made to malfunction. 500+ rounds is correct. You will be suprised how much better you and your gun get as you near the 500 round mark. If it jams after 500 rounds and the pistol is cleaned get rid of it or take it to a smith. It will become an extension of your body if you shoot it enough. As a matter of fact, last weekend, I was able to shoot more accurately with unaimed rapid fire than I did with slow aimed fire. If I didn't see it myself I wouldn't have believed it. peas -ddt
 
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