New Sig P229 Extreme w/ GGI P-SPIT Trigger Review

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Uncle Malice

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I just recently picked up a new Sig P229 Extreme in 9mm. This model comes with night sights, SRT trigger, Hogue Extreme G10 grips, and forward serrations. It also includes the stupid 'short reach' (thin) trigger, which I hate. I usually swap my Sigs out for the solid P226 factory trigger, but I figured I would give the P-SPIT trigger from Gray Guns a shot. It's only like $60 or so after shipping and comes with a built-in over-travel stop.

The first thing I will say is that the new P229 has excellent fit & finish. I know there has been some issues in the past couple of years with some QC/fit & finish issues with Sigs, such as tooling marks or uneven finishes on the inside of the slide or frame. I am pleased to report that mine is essentially perfect. There are virtually NO tooling marks whatsoever on the inside of the slide. The finish is applied evenly across the entire weapon, including the underside of the slide where it's less important. The trigger pull from the factory was very smooth and somewhat light compared to what they usually are. If you're familiar with Sigs, you know that they break in nicely after a few thousand rounds. My specimen felt like it was already halfway there.

I installed the Gray Guns P-SPIT trigger before I even shot it. I have no interest in shooting the gun with the short-reach trigger. I hate it. The pivot pin hole on the P-SPIT trigger was just a hair tight. This has been seen on the triggers and was not a huge surprise. The GGI trigger is machines to very tight tolerances and some of the pivot pins are slightly thicker than others according to Bruce. No big deal, I spent about 10 minutes lapping the hole. The method I used was to take some Q-Tips, cut them in half, and insert them into my variable speed Dremel. I put a dab of the Dremel polishing compound on the Q-Tip and eased it in and out of the hole. I went through about a dozen Q-Tips and it took about 10 min. It worked perfectly and now the trigger pivots on the pin the a glass tube in a tub of butter.

I got to the range today but only had time to put 100 rounds through the gun. Accuracy was great for the first time out with this one. Reliability was perfect thus far. I'm very happy with the gun as is... of course, I need to put a LOT more rounds through it. I think I probably prefer my P226(MK25) over the P229 just a bit.... but they are both wonderful guns. I just prefer the full size guns overall.

Here is the first target. This is 30rds at 21 feet, standing:

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Second target is similar. 40rds at 21 feet, standing:

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This one was 20 rounds shooting full double action for every trigger pull(decocking after each shot). Again, 21 feet, standing:

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Like I said, I'm really liking this gun so far. I'm pleased to see that Todd Green's torture test pistol for this year is also the Sig P229. Looking forward to seeing how that test goes.

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I've got the G10 grips on my Sig X-Five Competition (very similar to the pattern you have) and I love them! The trigger on my X-5 is perfect; I shoot great with it and I wouldn't want anyone to touch my trigger. I don't have the SRT - just a stock, single-action, non-adjustable X-5 trigger.
 
now the trigger pivots on the pin the a glass tube in a tub of butter.
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To quote Ron Burgundy, "That doesn't make sense."

Still, I had never heard of this part before, it's a pretty cool idea. I sort of wonder how effective it is with the SRT already installed. I never found much overtravel on the P series pistols with that equipped.

GG does such awesome work. One day. One day.
 
To quote Ron Burgundy, "That doesn't make sense."
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lol, I suppose you're right. basically, it's incredibly slick. there is zero wobble to it. It's like a perfect little hydraulic shaft that rotates.

As for the trigger itself, it doesn't 'feel' like there is much over travel, and compared with many guns there isn't. But, if you kind of hold your finger tip behind the trigger when breaking in single action, you'll notice that after the sear releases there are a couple millimeters of travel. The GGI trigger removes most of that, and it doesn't have to be fitted. I almost wish it did require fitting so you could shave off every last little hair of over-travel.... I suppose that's that their gunsmithing services are for though. For a drop-in part, it's certainly worth the money. I really like the shape of the trigger face. it's perfectly radiused and very comfortable.
 
As for the trigger itself, it doesn't 'feel' like there is much over travel, and compared with many guns there isn't. But, if you kind of hold your finger tip behind the trigger when breaking in single action, you'll notice that after the sear releases there are a couple millimeters of travel. The GGI trigger removes most of that, and it doesn't have to be fitted. I almost wish it did require fitting so you could shave off every last little hair of over-travel.... I suppose that's that their gunsmithing services are for though. For a drop-in part, it's certainly worth the money. I really like the shape of the trigger face. it's perfectly radiused and very comfortable.
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Cool, definitely worth looking into then thanks!
 
Are you at all nervous about the pin walking out of the hole you lapped. I am assuming you did a very good job fitting it, not doubting you, but seeing you say how smooth it is.. would make me a little uneasy about pins walking in a hard use gun.
 
Are you at all nervous about the pin walking out of the hole you lapped.
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That pin on a SIG is part of the trigger bar, if I remember correctly. I am not sure how it is possible for it to walk out.
 
The pin has 2 notches in it that is held in place by the locking block, so it's impossible for it to walk out.

You insert the trigger, slide the pin thrugh with the notches in the correct orientation (about a 45 degree angle) and then slide the locking block down over it. No worries about it moving. :)
 
Ahh ok, I owned sigs, but never detail stripped one to be honest. When I hear people start polishing and lapping things on what would be consider duty weapons or CCW guns I get a little nervous because I have seen far too many mistakes.:eek:
 
Just had to come back and post one more update. Had another range day today and put another 200 rounds through the gun. I believe I'm at around 550-600 rounds through it now and I have to say... it's really growing on me.

I'm shooting it better than my MK25. Perhaps that's because this one has the GGI trigger in it though. I still think I slightly prefer the feel in hand of the 226... but damn it I can't argue with how dead on this 229 is shooting for me. Even in DA it's staying dead on for me.

Going to have to get a good dedicated holster for it. I've been using my MK25 holsters which works fine, they're just slightly bigger than they need to be.

I'm going to need to pick up another of the GGI triggers for the MK25 and see where we're at. It still won't make the MK25 as beautifully smooth as the 229 trigger pull is though. Someone really took their time at the factory on this one. That, or I got a lucky combination of perfect tolerance meshing. Either way... this one is definitely a keeper.
 
Nice! Two of my favorite things....Gray Guns stuff, and a SIG P229.

I'm considering replacing the trigger on a P220R with a GGI P-SPIT. I know you installed the trigger on the gun before you shot it, but can you speak to the difference between the P-SPIT and a regular SIG "thick" trigger? I too prefer the standard SIG trigger, but I've heard good things about the P-SPIT, so I'm curious.
 
Nice! Two of my favorite things....Gray Guns stuff, and a SIG P229.

I'm considering replacing the trigger on a P220R with a GGI P-SPIT. I know you installed the trigger on the gun before you shot it, but can you speak to the difference between the P-SPIT and a regular SIG "thick" trigger? I too prefer the standard SIG trigger, but I've heard good things about the P-SPIT, so I'm curious.
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Absolutely! If it helps to solidify it at all, i swapped out the standard trigger in my MK25 shortly after doing the one on the P229 here as well. The general thickness of the P-SPIT trigger is basically the same as the standard trigger except the front is much more radiused for better ergonomics. Going backt o the standard trigger, it feels very squared off, which I never noticed before.

The overtravel stop works remarkably well for a drop in part making the the already very short reset of the SRT about 50% shorter. It's very... 1911'ish. I like it so much that I have an extra P-SPIT trigger on hand already in the event that I pick up another Sig. I've been considering getting the 226 Elite Stainless. Had the 229 and 220 elite stainless before and really liked them. I sold the 220 because I just don't shoot 220's well (having owned several of them) and while the 229 shot beautifully it was just way too heavy to carry. So if I take carry out of the equation, the 226 becomes a great option.
 
Wonderful. Thanks for the reply...just what I was hoping to hear.

I still have the regular P-series trigger (purchased from you a while back....thanks again) in my regular P220 which is much better for my hands than the short-reach trigger. I just ordered a P-SPIT to go in my next SIG, which is going to be a P220 Stainless Nitron (once I sell my other SIGs to free up the cash).
 
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