New Shooting At Virginia Tech

Nope, didn't happen, the campus groups, the administration and a parents group all said no to guns and that is that, no guns allowed on campus so the story has to be made up.
 
Nope, didn't happen, the campus groups, the administration and a parents group all said no to guns and that is that, no guns allowed on campus so the story has to be made up.
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Strangely one of the first tweets from the school newspaper was that guns were not allowed, except they were serious.
 
Live in Blacksburg and spent most of the day with this. Details aren't too clear yet, but I've picked up a few things about it.

Officer had someone pulled over for a traffic stop. Someone else walked up and shot the officer, then ran off.

They believe the shooter then killed himself after running about a quarter mile.

Snagged this off a local news site.

In the middle of the day, in front of dozens of witnesses, a Virginia Tech Police officer was gunned down Thursday in the Coliseum Parking lot on the school's campus.

"When the other officers started yelling his name, to get him to wake up, or to gain consciousness, that's what really hit me," said Virginia Tech freshman Juliet Fielding.

Deriek Crouse, a four-year veteran of the Tech police department, was on a routine traffic stop around 12:30 p.m. when police say a white man walked up to the officer's car, and shot him.

Juliet Fielding walked out of the gym seconds after it happened.

"Then the police pulled up and they opened his car door and he just fell out towards the ground. As soon as I saw his face, I just started crying," Fielding said.
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While this is a tragedy for the Officer’s family as well as the University as a whole I hate some of the comments being made by the University President Steger. “In light of the turmoil and trauma and the tragedy suffered by this campus by guns, I can only say words don‘t describe our feelings and they’re elusive at this point in time,” university president Charles Steger said.

The “turmoil and trauma and the tragedy” are not being cause by guns, but by criminals who used a tool, which in this case happened to be a gun, to commit a crime. Maybe I am overreacting, but why is it easier for some people to blame inanimate objects for crimes than the people who actual commit the crime. Is this just a symptom of our society’s avoidance of personal responsibility? Is it easier to make sense of things by blaming every possible factor except the choices of an individual? Oh well I am over analyzing again…
 
That's pretty much what I thought when I read his statement too.

Yeah, it's the gun's fault, not the crazy evil person's fault.
 
why is it easier for some people to blame inanimate objects for crimes than the people who actual commit the crime
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I'm older than most of you and I've learned something about that type of thinking (which is symptomatic of a particular philisophical ideology and political party, but I won't name names so as not to get my post deleted), and that is they will never, ever, and I mean never, see the truth about their prejudice. Because deep down inside everyone of them they know that to change their way of thinking will be to admit they were wrong. And they're never, ever, and I mean never, wrong.
 
Not changing thought patterns in the face of evidence is symptomatic of most people and both parties. So we can cut out the righteousness about how smart we are in OUR party.

This is a tragedy. Emotional responses to the instrumentation are to be expected, so relax a bit.

For example, I have a friend who father won't go to a Chinese restaurant because they are Asian and the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor. Won't listen to reason.

I guess I'm saying, don't get all ruffled. Fight the rational fight but don't expect someone to jump up and say: Goody for guns after a shooting or go for sushi after Pearl Harbor.

Understand some basic psychology.
 
Glenn: Reminds me of a Chinese immigrent I know...won't purchase a Japanese built car...In his case, what the Japanese did in China prior to and during WWII.

He eventually purchased a Datson, and thought it was pretty nice...

Yes, the knee jerk anti's can change, given the proper imput...

I still haven't convined one of my SILs though
 
I no longer donate to tech, no matter how many times they call.

Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
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Albert Einstein

Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.
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George Santayana, Life of Reason, Reason in Common Sense,
Scribner's, 1905, page 284
 
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