New reciprocity between Washington State and Texas?

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daddySEAL

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I've been told here(on this forum) that a new reciprocity concealed carry agreement between Washington State and Texas has recently occured.

Apparently the Sheriff's office in Washington that I contacted yesterday is not aware of it, and told me I had to be a resident for at least 90 days before applying for a Washington license. I plan to go thru the abbreviated Washington State process anyway after I get there next year. But would rather not wait 90 days to apply, and then their 30 day approval period, if I can.


Could ANYONE please tell me a source for the Washington agreement? (North Bender ?)
And were I could find and get a copy of it, please?

thank you,
dS
 
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You might want to look at some of the non-resident CCW licenses and apply for them before you leave Texas.

I know the non-res Florida CCW is good in 29 states, and the non-res Utah (you should get this one) is good in both Texas AND Washington state, and good for 25 states.


http://www.ccwusa.com/site/


Hope this helps.



Kris
 
Some states don't recognize WA states CPL because pretty much anyone, including green card holders, i.e. me, can apply for one, even with out any prior knowledge of firearms or legality of use of deadly force.

MD
 
Well, I think it's a crappy deal that they won't recognize Texas's.

Ours is a Very intensive.... class, range qualiying, and written test passing, FBI/ATF and State Police background checking.
(beside fees and the same fingerprinting).
 
Yes that does suck...

I actually see this as a trick the .GOV could pull with a National Conceal and carry... basically everyone would have to attain such high standards and test scores that it would wipe out all but the top shooters in the nation... double edged sword there.

Don't get me started on fingerprinting, I've lived here for 7 years and I bet I've been printed more times than the average felon, which I'm not... ;)
 
Well, I'm glad that I'm heading for NW Washington then...Ha!

Tell me, please....since you live up there; Here when a pistol is used for totally legitimate self-defence incidents and the cops confiscate your gun. And even when you are totally cleared of any wrong doing....they still destroy your weapon.

Is Washington that way?
 
Why would they destroy your gun if what you did was legal? I've got an old school chum who just retired from Dallas PD and I'll ask him about it.:confused:
 
I have no idea if they destroy the weapon or not in all cases.

A friend of a friend had his pistol confiscated one time for pulling on some huge drunk guy and poking him in the stomache with it when the huge guy had pin'd him to the ground and was about to mate the ashphalt to his head... He did get his pistol back a while later.
 
Washington State Concealed Weapons Permit

I am not sure what the deputy told you about 90 days residency, but Washington State is a "Shall Issue" state, resident or not. You have to apply in person, but I live in Oregon and have a Washington State Permit.

http://www.co.clark.wa.us/sheriff/community/firearms.html#four

While residents living within Clark County can expect a 30 day period of waiting, the law provides our agency up to 60 days for out of state residents to process due to time needed for extra paperwork.
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WA is "shall issue" (one of the first) and a CHL is easy to get. Non-residents can get a permit, but must apply in person. Upon returnng to WA from TX I renewed my WA chl with no difficulty. Open carry is not technically illegal unless some bed wetter takes alarm. TX allows loaded long guns in a vehicle, WA does not. I am not a lawyer but I did stay at a Holiday Inn.
 
Hmm.. I'll have another look at the handout the sheriff sent me.


Yep there it is:
RCW 9.41.050

Carrying firearms.
(1)(a) Except in the person's place of abode or fixed place of business, a person shall not carry a pistol concealed on his or her person without a license to carry a concealed pistol.

(b) Every licensee shall have his or her concealed pistol license in his or her immediate possession at all times that he or she is required by this section to have a concealed pistol license and shall display the same upon demand to any police officer or to any other person when and if required by law to do so. Any violation of this subsection (1)(b) shall be a class 1 civil infraction under chapter 7.80 RCW and shall be punished accordingly pursuant to chapter 7.80 RCW and the infraction rules for courts of limited jurisdiction.

(2)(a) A person shall not carry or place a loaded pistol in any vehicle unless the person has a license to carry a concealed pistol and: (i) The pistol is on the licensee's person, (ii) the licensee is within the vehicle at all times that the pistol is there, or (iii) the licensee is away from the vehicle and the pistol is locked within the vehicle and concealed from view from outside the vehicle.

(b) A violation of this subsection is a misdemeanor.

(3)(a) A person at least eighteen years of age who is in possession of an unloaded pistol shall not leave the unloaded pistol in a vehicle unless the unloaded pistol is locked within the vehicle and concealed from view from outside the vehicle.

(b) A violation of this subsection is a misdemeanor.

(4) Nothing in this section permits the possession of firearms illegal to possess under state or federal law.


[2003 c 53 § 28; 1997 c 200 § 1; 1996 c 295 § 4; 1994 sp.s. c 7 § 405; 1982 1st ex.s. c 47 § 3; 1961 c 124 § 4; 1935 c 172 § 5; RRS § 2516-5.]

NOTES:


Intent -- Effective date -- 2003 c 53: See notes following RCW 2.48.180.


Finding -- Intent -- Severability -- 1994 sp.s. c 7: See notes following RCW 43.70.540.


Effective date -- 1994 sp.s. c 7 §§ 401-410, 413-416, 418-437, and 439-460: See note following RCW 9.41.010.


Severability -- 1982 1st ex.s. c 47: See note following RCW 9.41.190.
 
daddySEAL, I believe you must have misunderstood something you heard.

daddySEAL said:
Here when a pistol is used for totally legitimate self-defence incidents and the cops confiscate your gun. And even when you are totally cleared of any wrong doing....they still destroy your weapon.
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That is not Texas State Law. Perhaps some particular jurisdiction has gotten into the habit of doing things that way, but there's no legal provision for destruction of private property that has not been legally forfeited.

Yes, the handgun is seized while the matter is investigated. And, if someone was shot with it and charges are filed on the shooter, who is then ultimately cleared in court, it may take some time to regain possession. Frequently, if there is a finding of guilt, the court may enter an order of forfeiture to a law enforcement agency, which will often destroy such firearms.

You wrote, however, "totally cleared of any wrong doing . . . .", so the above would NOT apply. On several occasions, I've personally arranged for the release of firearms to the rightful owners following disposition of criminal charges.

Even when there is a finding of guilt, the defendant can sometimes arrange to have his/her firearm released to a responsible party. From what I've seen, this is most often the defense attorney, as part of the legal fee. :rolleyes:

Texas Code of Criminal Procedure has a detailed section dealing with disposition and release of personal property following Court action.

Best regards,
Johnny
 
Johnny Guest,
Maybe not state wide, as you've found for your area, But my CHL instructor warned us that it is "policy" for the Austin area law enforcement agencies.

And that pisses me off hugely!

Some of those little puppies aren't cheap, you know?

But now the Governor is trying to pass legislation to allow CHL people to carry Anywhere that isn't posted against it. AND Non CHL people to carry locked and loaded in their cars(as an extention of their home).
 
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Hello Daddy Seal:

How about if I respond 2 months after you referenced me? I didn't notice the thread.

The Attorney General's web page states that Washington recognizes concealed carry permits issued in these states:

North Carolina
Mississippi
Ohio
Oklahoma
Louisiana
Utah
Michigan

So that's unfortunate for you.

The King County (Seattle) Sherrif's Office lists this information regarding out-of-state applicants:

The Sheriff’s Office will issue concealed pistol licenses to out-of-state residents. You must appear in person at the King County Courthouse in downtown Seattle. The requirements and fees are the same as listed above under “Applying for a New License”. And the waiting period may take up to 60 days for non-residents.

We will mail your concealed pistol license once approved.

They say it can take up to 60 days, but as I remember mine came within 2 - 3 weeks.

Good luck on your move!
 
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